Over Training for 35 and Older

**DreamWeaver** · 06-10-2008, 01:19 PM

Yes I have been through all that. We do what we can and it usually works out.

Arbor · 06-30-2008, 04:10 PM

36 old?!?!?! C'mon!!! I'm 54 and can do everything I did when I was 30, just more carefully and not always as heavy.

Rest does become more important, but I believe it's very important at any age if you are putting forth maximum effort.

Remember what Bruce Lee said (paraphrased)..."You don't get faster as you get older, you get wiser."

Kristofer68SS · 06-30-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Arbor

36 old?!?!?! C'mon!!! I'm 54 and can do everything I did when I was 30, just more carefully and not always as heavy.

Rest does become more important, but I believe it's very important at any age if you are putting forth maximum effort.

Remember what Bruce Lee said (paraphrased)..."You don't get faster as you get older, you get wiser."

i agree, diet and rest becomes more and more important.

**DreamWeaver** · 06-30-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Arbor

36 old?!?!?! C'mon!!! I'm 54 and can do everything I did when I was 30, just more carefully and not always as heavy.

Rest does become more important, but I believe it's very important at any age if you are putting forth maximum effort.

Remember what Bruce Lee said (paraphrased)..."You don't get faster as you get older, you get wiser."

One thing I do find my experience allows me to make a lot of progress with less overall effort. No more 75-80 minute workouts all of them are under an hour. I seem to be able to maximize intensity and still do very well. Yah 36 there should be no discernable slow down at that age.

Trapark666 · 07-01-2008, 12:11 PM

I turned 41 this year and have always kind of been a binge and purge lifter. Fortunately I was blessed with decent genetics which means that after a two month winter layoff, I can bounce back in only a two or three month period. Last year at this time I was as strong as I have ever been in my life but I noticed that this year progression has slowed way down. One thing I realize is that my sleep habits are terrible and I was wondering what tips anyone may have to get more quality rest? Right now, I would say 3.5 to 4 hours is an average of what I'm getting a night which isn't nearly enough for adequate recovery. My strength numbers are actually going down.

Bum Mahoney · 07-01-2008, 12:35 PM

I hit 39 yesterday. I took a week off last week during a business trip. First break since last summer. I do feel great now. Starting again tomorrow, so we'll see where I am...

**DreamWeaver** · 07-01-2008, 12:36 PM

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I turned 41 this year and have always kind of been a binge and purge lifter. Fortunately I was blessed with decent genetics which means that after a two month winter layoff, I can bounce back in only a two or three month period. Last year at this time I was as strong as I have ever been in my life but I noticed that this year progression has slowed way down. One thing I realize is that my sleep habits are terrible and I was wondering what tips anyone may have to get more quality rest? Right now, I would say 3.5 to 4 hours is an average of what I'm getting a night which isn't nearly enough for adequate recovery. My strength numbers are actually going down.

Some supps that may help are IGF2 or Powerfull. I here good things about ZMK from millenium. Melatonin gets lower when we age that is key for some.

Trapark666 · 07-01-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

Some supps that may help are IGF2 or Powerfull. I here good things about ZMK from millenium. Melatonin gets lower when we age that is key for some.

About six years ago I went through the same problem. I started taking Kava kava and that did wonders except for the bizarre dreams. At least I slept. I was wondering if melatonin levels could be a factor so I will give that plus ZMK a try. Thanks for the suggestion.

DBinMD · 07-06-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by vetteman36

Hello Everyone:

After reading various boards, I keep seeing people advocate taking 5 days to 1 week off after about 6 months of training. What opinion do you guys have on this???

I am 36 years old and have noticed that my recovery time is not what it used to be. I could go 1yr without taking any time off before. Now I just started working out 3 - 4 months ago and feel like I need about two weeks off!!!!

Old age sucks

Since I haven’t read all the posts I may be repeating what was already said. But, generally speaking, it’s not your age. I suspect you, like most of us, have a lot more responsibilities and other distractions than you did in your teens and 20’s. It’s probably healthy to take a week off every once in a while like vacations, holidays, etc. I think 6 months is about the most time to go without a break. I do it 3 or 4 times a year.

If you think 36 is old, wait ‘till you see 54.

**Dutchman** · 07-06-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Arbor

36 old?!?!?! C'mon!!! I'm 54 and can do everything I did when I was 30, just more carefully and not always as heavy.

Rest does become more important, but I believe it's very important at any age if you are putting forth maximum effort.

Remember what Bruce Lee said (paraphrased)..."You don't get faster as you get older, you get wiser."

What Bruce Lee didn't say but we are finding out is that while we can't get faster we can get stronger. Facing my 67th in a few months I have reasonable expectations that I will be recovered enough from my RC and Lower Back problems that I can take a real run again at improving my PRs. It takes me longer to recover sure, but I have the muscle memory and the mental conviction that I can so I soon build up speed and get back on track. IMHO there is no reason a 40 or 50 something can not look forward to improving for another 15 to 25 years.

**DreamWeaver** · 07-06-2008, 06:23 PM

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What Bruce Lee didn't say but we are finding out is that while we can't get faster we can get stronger. Facing my 67th in a few months I have reasonable expectations that I will be recovered enough from my RC and Lower Back problems that I can take a real run again at improving my PRs. It takes me longer to recover sure, but I have the muscle memory and the mental conviction that I can so I soon build up speed and get back on track. IMHO there is no reason a 40 or 50 something can not look forward to improving for another 15 to 25 years.

Injuries have gptten in my way of improving my records that I established at 45 but I am hopefull.

satyricon · 07-26-2008, 12:00 PM

i realize that many of you guys are more into BB or keeping fit,working out 4,5,even 6 days a week, i am mostly into strength,conditioning and overall health. if i feel lazy or tired from work or whatever(i do construction so i lift in the afternoon) i will do a shorter workout or just do some singles on a particular lift. it mostly depends on your goals,if you have a contest or meet coming up things are different but if you are simply doing this for yourself, your body will let you know when to take a break. sometimes i will do only 1 or 2 days a week for a couple of weeks or do body# only for a week but rarely do i take a full week off unless i am ill which only happens once or twice a year. my point is by this age we should all be pretty in touch with our bodies and make choices accordingly. read some of Brooks Kubik, Stuart McRobert or Ken Leistner.

tonye · 08-11-2008, 08:10 PM

newbie here. im soon to be 38. i like HST training. it works well. i started in with DC just recently and its good also. i like the down time but not really time off. i still keep the wake up routine so that its not hard to start back.

**DreamWeaver** · 08-12-2008, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tonye

newbie here. im soon to be 38. i like HST training. it works well. i started in with DC just recently and its good also. i like the down time but not really time off. i still keep the wake up routine so that its not hard to start back.

One thing I've learned over the years is it's really beneficial to switch you styles of training, all aspects should be addressed and most everything works just not for all that long.

**Dutchman** · 08-12-2008, 04:04 PM

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One thing I've learned over the years is it's really beneficial to switch you styles of training, all aspects should be addressed and most everything works just not for all that long.

Truer words were never spoken in this forum.