how does a 677 total test score look?
- 11-19-2006, 02:31 PM
- 11-19-2006, 02:37 PM
11-20-2006, 10:25 PM
11-20-2006, 11:21 PM
11-22-2006, 12:39 PM
yeah, who are you calling a dandy? j/k
I am curious what other peoples test levels are and how much success they have had in the gym w/out strong supp's?
11-26-2006, 07:46 PM
My test levels measured in at only 460, and I was still able to add muscle (although it takes a considerable longer amount of time and greater training to do it).
11-27-2006, 06:06 AM
how did you guys get your test scores? How much? Ive always been curious on my test levels if they are high or low.
11-27-2006, 07:34 AM
11-27-2006, 05:13 PM
I went to my piece of sh1t doctor and showed him a printout of the symptoms of low testosterone (his colleague had previously diagnosed me with chronic fatigue syndrome the quack), I said "I have all these sypmtoms", he said "everyone has all those symptoms", I said "I want a referral to an endocrinologist", he said "your too muscular for testosterone defficiancy", I said "I workout alot! I want a blood test."
He wrote me up for a "total test" test.
Son of a b1tch was right. **** I hate him.
11-27-2006, 07:21 PM
Well, not to defend the doctor but he is not entirely incorrect either. At 677 total test it does not raise a red flag for test disorders. That is quite healthy really. I would be very surprised if you are deficient in free test.
If you insist on it there are other means:
Blood tests. Discounted blood tests. Blood tests for health.
TESTOSTERONE - FREE
11-27-2006, 08:08 PM
Have your Dr run a blood test on you. You will want to know the scale range (upper and lower range in ng/dl) and your "free" and "total" test levels. As I understand it, your total test levels is the total testosterone your Leydig cells naturally produce before they are bound by SHBG, and the free is what is left over to promote sex drive, muscle growth etc...Originally Posted by pistonpump
IMO, it is a good idea to get tested, even though one may not have any symptoms. This establishes a baseline while you are not having problems. Should one start to exhibit low test levels, at least the Dr will know where your levels were before hand.
11-27-2006, 08:25 PM
I'm satisfied with the results of the first test. I dont want to go and prove him right a second time.
Honestly I was hoping that 2 weeks of androstenedione applied transdermally 2 weeks ahead of time with no PCT would scew the results and get me a script for HRT.
In hind sight I think that would have been a bad idea and I'm glad it failed.
Son of a b*tch... I wasted another day on this forum. Barely have time to workout now. Bye
11-28-2006, 07:17 PM
I just had a physical and am waiting for my results, I am pretty curious, as a ecto, I am expecting low range numbers, will post when known..........
12-03-2006, 12:42 PM
I received my results in the mail yesterday, it showed the test level readings as incomplete and to make matters worse it said I need to come back in for a hepatitis profile and U/5 of liver to evaluate abnormal liver functions. WTF is this all about, I live as clean a lifestyle as I ever have. I have researched Hepatitis a little, but I guess I,ll find out soon enough, the interesting part about all this is, I was suppose to start a Superdrol cycle today, but not now and maybe not ever, I did a cycle about two years ago with no problems and have had a complete physical before this last one with no problems. Damn I hate waiting, test are scheduled for 12/20/06.......
12-03-2006, 09:44 PM
Originally Posted by RipdnTxs
i wouldnt worry about it, doctors tend to go overkill on tests to cover their own asses if they arent quite sure whats wrong. when i had pubertal gyno in the 9th grade a doctor sent me for an MRI of my pituitary. i wouldnt worry yet.
12-05-2006, 12:52 PM
Originally Posted by RipdnTxs
You're gonna die bro. Give me all your gear, etc. Nice knowin ya! And, if your girl is hot, give me her number.........
12-05-2006, 01:59 PM
12-05-2006, 03:53 PM
The love and support I get here is what keeps me coming back, and by the way u can have my wife, NOT my girlfriend !!!!!!!!!!
12-05-2006, 03:56 PM
Crap.... I don't want your wife. Only a crazy, half-retarded guy would a wife.... (and yes, I realize that I just offended half of the muscleheads on this board... but then they reread it and agreed).Originally Posted by RipdnTxs
And yes, I'm only 29, so I shouldn't be reading the old-fogey boards, but I'm trying to figure out what's going to happen to me when I get old, depleted, senile, and, quite frankly..... small.
Or, is it that my body FEELS like I'm old. Not sure. Thanks for the laughs guys... and please don't show up on my doorstep in your rascals pointing your canes at me. I don't want to go through that AGAIN!!!
12-05-2006, 07:25 PM
Well, the news just gets better for me all the time, just got off the phone with my Doc. and my test level was a pathetic
377 and he said it was within normal range for my age. Its no wonder my gains come as quickly as they would for my freakin sister, this just sucks. As far as my liver enzymes being off, he agreed that a leg workout about 36 hrs. before the test could have skewed the results due to tissue breakdown, so I have another test on Saturday, no more lifting till then, so now me and my le fem Nikita test levels will eat bon bons and watch Lifetime Network.....................
12-05-2006, 09:04 PM
12-06-2006, 12:03 AM
12-06-2006, 08:13 PM
12-09-2006, 01:34 PM
I tested at 300. Doctor says it's within range and gave me Viagra to offset the ED,Originally Posted by RipdnTxs
Can you imagine what our levels will be like when we are in our 50's,,
needless to say, I just found a new doctor..
I recently had blood work done and my AST/ALT liver values were just off the normal range, but everything else was normal. This was also caused by working out before the blood test.
12-24-2006, 07:16 PM
I know I'm gonna screw things up by making sense but, isn't working out ultimately about being healthy. I'm 54 and I don't have any idea what my test numbers are but I don't have too much trouble putting on muscle. I'm not a Mr. Anything but I get a lot of compliments paticularly from women who guess my age wrong most of the time.
I've done ph's in the past with pretty good success. I have, however found that women like balls not peanuts so I think I'm better off using "Game" and being healthy than getting big on any type of "drol" for a short time and maybe coming up short, If you get my drift.
12-25-2006, 02:06 PM
I had a blood workup after my last show (11/4) this season to see where I was in terms of cholesterol, ratio and test. My cholesterol is 180 and my testosterone is 450. At 63, I believe I have enough test to continue adding muscle. As a "natural" competitor, I couldn't do Growth Hormone Therapy or Testosterone Replacement Therapy if I wanted to. It's not legal in "testing" federations.
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12-26-2006, 11:58 PM
Are these test #s for total or free test?
any sites out there listing the common ranges for age groups?
12-27-2006, 11:52 AM
Its Bioavailable testosterone not Total Testosterone that determines how much testosterone is doing for you in the gym.
I cant get bioavailable here in australia but free testosterone is the next best thing although it isnt so reliable. My free testosterone was really low 54 (40-138) and IGF-1 was 24 (24-102).
Needless to say joint problems were an issue among other things.
Yep, Center For Clinical Age Management - Natural Hormone Replacement, Boca Raton Florida.Originally Posted by smithsonga
12-31-2006, 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by GO_OUTSIDE!
677 !!! You'll never get into a good college with that score. Stop hitting the gym and start hitting the books.
01-06-2007, 02:51 AM
My baseline is 618, free test 15.5. On Activate and RR, I jump to 1000+, free test 40. Gains don't depend solely on test. If you have poor androgen receptor signaling, a lot of test doesn't help.
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