41 and loosing the battle

**RickM** · 08-24-2006, 07:32 PM

Approaching 42 and feel like my body is loosing the battle with age. Weight is up, bodyfat levels increasing, and generally feeling older. The move from up north to Florida allowed me to increase my activity level the past year, but still not getting the results.

Monday's weigh in was 240 at 35% BF.

A few years ago I almost signed up with an online HRT clinic, but I decided to hold off. Well, thinking that my levels are decreasing with age, I called them back last week and started the paperwork.

Decided that the home gym wasn't cutting it, and joined a local place on Saturday.

Was lurking around here, and figured I would sign up.

That's my story!

Viperspit · 08-24-2006, 08:29 PM

Rick, welcome to AM. I can relate to the 40's thing, however, have you actually gotten any bloodwork done to see what your test levels are at? Age is one thing, test levels are something totaly different. I can honestly say that I'm 42 and in better shape now, than when I was 25. Theres a lot of great people that can help you out on this board. I guess I'm just saying be careful about just jumping into HRT, there's may other avenues to explore, starting with diet and training. good luck to you

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Originally Posted by RickM

Approaching 42 and feel like my body is loosing the battle with age. Weight is up, bodyfat levels increasing, and generally feeling older. The move from up north to Florida allowed me to increase my activity level the past year, but still not getting the results.

Monday's weigh in was 240 at 35% BF.

A few years ago I almost signed up with an online HRT clinic, but I decided to hold off. Well, thinking that my levels are decreasing with age, I called them back last week and started the paperwork.

Decided that the home gym wasn't cutting it, and joined a local place on Saturday.

Was lurking around here, and figured I would sign up.

That's my story!

Nitrox · 08-24-2006, 08:29 PM

Welcome to the board.

I think you've come to the right place. The know-how is here so stick around, read up, and let us know how if we can help out.

Grounded · 08-24-2006, 10:37 PM

Rick, at 63 I've been there done that. I really started to notice the decline in my 50s even though I was highly active. Nothing seemed to work anymore in terms of gym results, fitness, general feeling of well being and sex. At 61 blood tests showed that I might be helped with HRT lowering estrodiol - high sensitivity (which was running more than double recommended value) and raising test and IGF levels to mid to high levels of a young man.

Coupling this with weights, cardio workouts and a specific diet plan I dropped from 28% to around 15% bf and gained back lots of lost lean weight. I hit a plateau at the first of this year with no progress until eleven weeks ago when I sought out expert help to see if with dedication I could get down to around 10% without loosing much if any lean weight. I hired Bobo through his FLA company to design a plan to accomplish this. The result of this effort is an unqualified success (see thread in FLA).

So from my experience, IF YOU NEED IT, I highly recommend HRT. But that's not going to solve the problems. It just means that diet and exercise will work again so that you, having a good plan and putting in the effort, can regain good fitness.

Please keep us informed about your process and progress. It's an adventure that's very rewarding.

**Basso** · 08-24-2006, 10:57 PM

It's not impossible but it's not easy, at 41 myself and losing fat is sooo much harder then it used to be. I started cutting in May of this year and have gone from mid 20's to under 15% and plan on making it to 10% if it kills me. Anyway your not alone, you just have to make major life style changes and stick with it. Good luck and stick around you'll find a lot of help here.

**RickM** · 08-25-2006, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Viperspit

Rick, welcome to AM. I can relate to the 40's thing, however, have you actually gotten any bloodwork done to see what your test levels are at? Age is one thing, test levels are something totaly different. I can honestly say that I'm 42 and in better shape now, than when I was 25. Theres a lot of great people that can help you out on this board. I guess I'm just saying be careful about just jumping into HRT, there's may other avenues to explore, starting with diet and training. good luck to you

After reading some posts I am wondering a little about the online clinic I am working with. Not that they are not good. Just that being under a closer look by a doctor, and in an actual doctors office, may be better.

Should be getting some bloodwork done next week.

My body has also been through a lot with knee, ankle, shoulder, elbow and wrist surgeries.

**RickM** · 08-25-2006, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitrox

Welcome to the board.

I think you've come to the right place. The know-how is here so stick around, read up, and let us know how if we can help out.

Thanks for the welcome.

I spent some time last night reading and checking out links to some articles. It was a learning experience.

**RickM** · 08-25-2006, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Basso

It's not impossible but it's not easy, at 41 myself and losing fat is sooo much harder then it used to be. I started cutting in May of this year and have gone from mid 20's to under 15% and plan on making it to 10% if it kills me. Anyway your not alone, you just have to make major life style changes and stick with it. Good luck and stick around you'll find a lot of help here.

lol... I would like to see the high 20's right now

**RickM** · 08-25-2006, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Grounded

Coupling this with weights, cardio workouts and a specific diet plan I dropped from 28% to around 15% bf and gained back lots of lost lean weight. I hit a plateau at the first of this year with no progress until eleven weeks ago when I sought out expert help to see if with dedication I could get down to around 10% without loosing much if any lean weight. I hired Bobo through his FLA company to design a plan to accomplish this. The result of this effort is an unqualified success (see thread in FLA).

I was reading some posts in that forum last night. May check into it further.

Thanks

**RickM** · 08-25-2006, 06:09 PM

Called the clinic today to see what happened to my physical and blood test that was supposed to happen this week. They called me back and said that company in charge of that would be contacting me.

Nothing yet.

On another note. I have a few names of doctors just south of me that participate in HRT. Didnt call yet, but it is in the back of my mind.

Rogue Drone · 08-25-2006, 07:49 PM

**RickM** · 08-25-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogue Drone

I'm 43 and soon 44, and have shifted from an anabolically oriented supplement and exercise routine to a aerobic and flexibility oriented routine with mostly longterm health/anti-aging supps, it's a shift I'd recommend to all older guys to strongly consider if they are Mesomorphic or Endomorphic.

DHEA And Melatonin for this group, strongly suggested.

What made you consider switching?

Rogue Drone · 08-25-2006, 09:04 PM

Rogue Drone · 08-25-2006, 09:38 PM

**Basso** · 08-25-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogue Drone

HRT seems pretty hit and miss, my suggestion to older guys with diminishing T and elevating E is to consider a steroidal AI like DS's RXT or Rebound Reloaded or AX's P.C.T.on a low dose every few days with periodic bloodtests to determine effectiveness as the way to start. putting extra T into the system will elevate E and can cause the shutdown of natural production, I would prefer to target the conversion from DHEA initally and provide more of the precursor, DHEA.

????

Maybe I miss read this, but PCT,RXT or RR will never boost your test enough to cause shutdown, in fact their purpose besides blocking E is to aid in getting that function going again after a AAS cycle.

**yeahright** · 08-25-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Basso

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Maybe I miss read this, but post cycle therapy,RXT or RR will never boost your test enough to cause shutdown, in fact their purpose besides blocking E is to aid in getting that function going again after a anabolic steroids cycle.

I think he was referring to HRT.....and suggesting that one start with some low dose AI to see if it can favorably change the T/E ratio before considering HRT.

**yeahright** · 08-25-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RickM

Approaching 42 and feel like my body is loosing the battle with age. Weight is up, bodyfat levels increasing, and generally feeling older. The move from up north to Florida allowed me to increase my activity level the past year, but still not getting the results.

Monday's weigh in was 240 at 35% BF.

A few years ago I almost signed up with an online HRT clinic, but I decided to hold off. Well, thinking that my levels are decreasing with age, I called them back last week and started the paperwork.

Decided that the home gym wasn't cutting it, and joined a local place on Saturday.

Was lurking around here, and figured I would sign up.

That's my story!

WELCOME!

**RickM** · 08-26-2006, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by yeahright

WELCOME!

Thanks

Gettiing some good info from the boards.