Thinking about HRT......
- 02-15-2006, 10:26 AM
- 02-15-2006, 10:33 AM
02-15-2006, 11:50 AM
02-15-2006, 06:13 PM
Yeah, let us know how it goes delta, good luck with everything.
colkurtz, sounds like the dermal is doing really well for you, that's awesome. If I could get levels like that, I guess I wouldn't mind it so much over the injects.
xr, thx for that link, I'm gonna check it out.
02-16-2006, 04:05 PM
My test was around 300 and I started 200mg wk of Test Cyp and it worked great.. but after a year didn't seem the same...but my levels were up around 900 which is were the Dr wanted...right now I'm not sure where they are..I just got bloodwork done and I started doing the Androgel pump...but I don't like it...going to get back to the injections
Insurance co pay for vial of Test $7.00...
02-16-2006, 06:06 PM
Your own testosterone converts to estrogen. Exogenous cyp will also convert to estrogen.Originally Posted by AGELESS
Its not about total testosterone - its about FREE testosterone. Make sure your DR checks your estrogen - trust me, in most cases- bring that estrogen back in line - then check your total & free test.
I know I'm rambling on and on but noone has said anything about estrogen control and thats a MUST!!
It happened to me - they were loading me up with CYP and my estrogen levels went thru the roof. I was holding water like crazy, swelling up etc. Boderline gyno....only reason Im bringing this up is cause no one has talked about it.
02-16-2006, 07:46 PM
I read that one of the levels they check is estrodiol (?) I read that link Ageless, and you're right about estrogen control. I have picked a doctor that was in the Mens Health Network, which specializes in HRT. I didn't want one of those fly by night companies that send you for a high dollar blood test, charge you a high price for a "consultation", and then you buy your "gear" from their pharmacy....
02-16-2006, 09:02 PM
Using transdermal continuously my free test is 2.68 out of a range between 1.1 and 2.8. My estradiol is 20 out of a range of 10-50. It says it's in the normal range but my old number was 10, which means it doubled.Originally Posted by AGELESS
02-17-2006, 10:50 AM
02-17-2006, 04:06 PM
I kinda wonder... If you have a script, does it matter that you have cheap UG gear? I'd think you'd still be OK, legal-wise...?
02-17-2006, 04:53 PM
Well, I had my consultation and I go for blood work tomorrow morning. The doctor said he preferred "androgel", as it was easier. I asked about patches and injections, and he said the injections were a pain because everyone wanted to come to the office and have him do it. I'll wait till we talk again and then let him know that I'd probably rather have the injections and I'm ok to do it myself. I don't know about mixing gear with a script. Probably couldn't hurt.
02-17-2006, 05:07 PM
told ya......the patch is a waste of co-pay.........but adding anything on your own isnt smart....Originally Posted by delta314
02-17-2006, 08:25 PM
See, that's what I don't get. The only reason he didn't want to give you the cyp is because he said it was a pain for HIM!!?? Last I checked, you're paying him to be your doctor, god forbid he would actually have to do his job. Doctors these days, I'll tell ya, some of them are pure idiots. delta, if you go back and say that you'd do them yourself, and he still doesn't give them to ya, I'd tell that guy off and find a new doc. Again, good luck and please keep us posted bud.Originally Posted by delta314
02-18-2006, 09:58 AM
I went this morning for blood work. 6 vials. I guess I was lucky that one out of eight LAbCorp offices is open on Saturday...
I'm going to tell the doc that I don't want the gel (what he said he usually prescribes), because I cannot stay dry for six hours while it absorbs, and I don't want to have to deal with it everyday. I want the shot once a week. If he doesn't want to give it to me, I'll do it myself.
Well, I'm starving! Almost 9am and I haven't eaten since last night. Gotta eat.....
02-18-2006, 11:32 AM
I use the transdermal. It's true that it takes time to rub it in thoroughly, but it dries in only 5 to 10 minutes. That's how mine works. Maybe your doc has a different formula.Originally Posted by delta314
02-18-2006, 05:21 PM
02-19-2006, 01:19 PM
02-19-2006, 06:46 PM
Not really. My $25 got me a blood test, which I can send to one of these online legal gear doctors, who for $200 will sell me test cyp, winistrol, etc.....from their pharmacy. Just the blood test alone was $450 if I had it done by them.Originally Posted by JKurz1
02-19-2006, 06:48 PM
And if my test comes back and shows that my levels are low enough to warrant HRT, then it will be a good thing regardless of how the test is administered.
02-19-2006, 10:14 PM
okay guys- I have been monitering the thread and I do not want to steal the thread or anything but I am a young guy with a total test of 308 and my doc would not do anything about it, Now I do not really have the symptoms of low test as I do have a sex drive and I have energy etc...
But I am going to be doing my first cycle in a bout 6 months and I am curious what some good companies are that wil prescribe legal test for me for my first cycle?
what do I need to do?
02-21-2006, 10:30 AM
02-21-2006, 02:05 PM
Aparently I'm not using Androgel. Mine is a testosterone cream. I rub it vigorously and it apprears to dry within 5 minutes. If you're interested I'll PM you the link.Originally Posted by delta314
02-21-2006, 02:09 PM
I don't believe anyone will sell you enough test for a "legal" cycle. There are some good over-the-coutner options that you can find on this site.Originally Posted by jeep
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