My blood tests scared me!

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  1. I know this isn't optimal but the Ergopharm product SKULPT contains 6-OXO in a DMSO base.....so might help as an off-the-shelf way to get a topical 6-OXO (for application to pecs for example).


  2. I think you may have really high levels of SHBG to aromatize test into that much estrogen. You need a decent endo to run a comprehensive steroid panel as a simple test:estrogen panel leaves out too much information to make a good diagnosis.

    Letro or Arimidex are good options for getting the E down, however they will not address the primary cause of such high aromatization. If you have a high bf percentage, that can also aggrevate the situation.
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  3. I'd stop a good 3 weeks out to let levels come back kinda close to where they had been. Glad you are feeling better. Too much estrogen is a drag.


    I have been having decent luck with Ester-C as per Dr D's advice. I'm using 2 grams per day while on my 4AD/19 Nor/1 test stack and so far, at the 4 weeks in, I have no nipple puffiness which is very unusual. I ran this same stack for my last cycle minus the Ester-C and had constant puffiness in the nipples and even got a very mild case of gyno. I am running no other AI or serms during this cycle...so my guess is that it's the Ester-C keeping aromitization in check. I NEVER would have guessed that it could do this.
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  4. Are you eating any soy products? If so stop. Have throid levels checked and see if you get them bumped up. It will help lose weight.

  5. Could you post more info on the Ester-C, Never heard of that before??

  6. Quote Originally Posted by walt
    Could you post more info on the Ester-C, Never heard of that before??
    Ester C is just an improved a form of vitamin C.
    I'd be curious to know the reasons for bioman's results.
  7. Wink


    here's what you should run.

    clomid at 50mgs a day for three weeks(wks 1-3)
    HCG at 120 units sub q for three weeks (wks 1-3)

    Followed by clomid for 25mgs a day for the next two weeks (wks 4-5) and clomid 12.5mgs a week after that for a total of 6 weeks.

    Nolva is optional but its rather harsh so if you can go without you'll be better off. That will get you boys working guaranteed. This cycle is tried and true

  8. Sorry for jumping in here, but I too have a question. I got my T levels tested and the Dr said I had low test and free test levels. (I don't know the numbers). He prescribed Clomid, 50 mg three times a week (MWF). It brought my levels back up to "normal range". I have another appt w/ him in a couple of weeks. I have heard concerns about being on Clomid for extended periods of time. Any thoughts? I also started looking into SD cycle and after posting here and other forums, the advice is to stay clear. One suggestion was NHA stack. Again, any thoughts? Thanks for any help.
    (40 years old, workout 4-5 days per week, good diet)
    Again, sorry for jumping in, not trying to hijack.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by gettingold
    Sorry for jumping in here, but I too have a question. I got my T levels tested and the Dr said I had low test and free test levels. (I don't know the numbers). He prescribed Clomid, 50 mg three times a week (MWF). It brought my levels back up to "normal range". I have another appt w/ him in a couple of weeks. I have heard concerns about being on Clomid for extended periods of time. Any thoughts? I also started looking into SD cycle and after posting here and other forums, the advice is to stay clear. One suggestion was NHA stack. Again, any thoughts? Thanks for any help.
    (40 years old, workout 4-5 days per week, good diet)
    Again, sorry for jumping in, not trying to hijack.
    If I had a pre-existing HPTA problem, I'd stay clear of ph use myself.

    The NHA stack increases free test but lowers overall test slightly (look at the bloodwork they posted). Since you've got a doc working with you, why don't you try talking to him/her about ways to get your test to optimal levels? Clomid (or some other prescription) may do you more good than any sup you could buy.

  10. I've talked to my Dr (Urologist) and he "doesn't know much/anything about those things". I was thinking of looking for a different doc that might be able to help me out. Test levels w/ clomid are up around 530. (don't know the range) Thanks for the input.
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