[Smoky]

Time to catch up: All seems to be well at this point. Strength still climbing all around. The Pro appears to lend a constant level of hardness, and a quicker pump during WO. Since the addition of Trib and DHEA the libido is on the rise. I have one more scheduled week of Pro then PCT begins. I may terminate when this bottle of Pro runs out about mid week. Just seems to be a logical stopping point. As for the cost effectivness of Pro I am beginning to think the money could be spent elsewhere with better results. Of course as the price falls it becomes more appealing as a tool in a cutting cycle. I have been sleeping somewhat better since coming off the SD it appears. Taking advantage of the opportunities as I can. I started cardio again. Will have to work my way back in, the shin splints were allot easier without the SD, but still enough discomfort to limit me to about half of previous limits. Anyone got any tips on dealing with or working through these darn shin splints?

Looking into the true neccesity of the Nolva with no apparent sides indicative of its need. As the Trib and DHEA work towards restoring the T, RXT and Retain should or could clean it it all up, or should I look more at the newer anti-Es? Comments appreciated.

[roadsidejustice]

Without going back and seeing what you were doing for cardio I would imagine anything without actual impact would be better for the shin splints (eliptical, bike, arc). When I played rugby back in the day I had them to the point it hurt to walk. The trainer recommended this sort of ace bandage looking thing that basically went around the shin area. Between the ice cups on the shins at night and the shin supports they were much better but there is no true way to heal them without stopping impact.

As far as the nolva I would add it to PCT. I think my PCT has been better than the guys I know that chose to go with the RXT.

What brand of Trib did you go with?

[Smoky]

Cardio is getting easier I think as SD leaves the system. I was able to go a bit longer. I walk a treadmill as the impact of jogging is more than I can take. The Trib is from Optimum, as it runs out I will be trying High Power brand.

I have decided to finish the week out on Pro. Then I will have my best understanding and experience of its effect. I have noticed the elbows are a bit sore, not sure if its the Pro or the stress levels. I am taking joint supplements as well.

So far I have added
Trib
DHEA
SesaMax

I feel I have done a wonderful job adding lean mass, now if I could strip some more BF it would be nice. I am down to losing the toughest for me. The love handle/mid section and lower chest area. My goal is to achieve a visible six pack after all these years. Mass has never been a problem for me only getting lean. I am currently researching cutting cycles and related chemicals. It appears that Albuterol may be a good choice to assist in achieving that chisled look.

[jim brooks]

hi i have a ? iam 35 trying to lose some pounds i have 6ox and superdrol was thinking of doing 10 mg of superdrol with 6-ox to lose a few pounds with cardio and 1800 diet will this work or will the sd put weight on with 10 and i am doing eca

[carib102]

Originally Posted by jim brooks

hi i have a ? iam 35 trying to lose some pounds i have 6ox and superdrol was thinking of doing 10 mg of superdrol with 6-ox to lose a few pounds with cardio and 1800 diet will this work or will the sd put weight on with 10 and i am doing eca

It is probably best to ask this question in a new thread. Reason being I would want to know much more about your background before giving any opinions and don't want to hi-jack Smoky's thread...oh you may also want to use the search tool a bit as there is a wealth of information already out there that would be pertinent to your question.

[Smoky]

I agree lets not hi-jack this thread. Any questions you may have that are directly relative to the scope of this thread please fire away. I will glady assist in any way I can if you choose to start a new thread. None the less I wont send you away empty handed. I think it best if you choose to bulk or cut. Trying to do both is not the most efficient but it can be done. (slower less productive) Commonly referred to as recomposition. This cycle's goal was that I wanted to grow but remain as lean as possible or leaner if the conditions allowed. By making this choice I sacrifice some gains. In the context of my cycle I purposely looked for the edge if you will, of gain vs loss. Basicaly I deployed a lowend surplus of macronutients of 3500-4000 cals, with periodic refeeds. (loading complex carbs) If I pushed the food harder the weight came easy. To keep this simple ... I found Prostanozol effective for cutting but think SD NOT unless gaining is part of the picture. Just isnt worth it for all that you wish to achieve IMO. I have recently added SesaMax and it appears to be producing results but I really wish to refrain from commenting on its performance just yet. Diet and exercise are still the biggest keys to loss. Learn to control your diet if you have not for it is the foundation of all else you may attempt to achieve or experiment with. Pretty much the single largest control you have in your hand and its virtualy safe. I make no assumption as to what you may or may not already know. Hope I helped you some how or at least got you pointed in the right direction.

Update for ME:

Still gaining strength, I will do the tale of the tape this coming weekend, as it will be the end of cycle. Hello PCT! Generaly feel a bit lethargic, but if I get up and go all is well. AX Rampage has been a good addition as well. It appears I am leaning more as I am just about to maintenance calories with weekly hi carb days. Maybe one cheat day at most, usualy incorporated with the cheat. Body weight is down a few pounds with no loss in strength, only gains. Cardio has been progressing this week. My goals for this summer are on track at this point. Planning one more cycle that should finish as summer begins if all continues to go well. More than likely will be a cycle of PP and Pro.

Peace

[Smoky]

I have added pGH to PCT. 1st dose was yesterday. Took my final Pro today and will commence PCT tomorrow.

.5cc ED PM 5 on - 2 off

[Smoky]

First day of PCT

Everything is in place. Last night was the PM dose of pGH IM (delt). I think I slept worse vs the mid day IM. No shortness of breathe or flush of any kind. Today is Shoulder/Back day. Anxious to hit the iron.

[Smoky]

All things going well. Appear to be reducing BF as the weight is falling but strength is holding. Today is BP day so we will see how it goes. Last two days were off days as well as a 2 off for the pGH. Got plenty of rest and ready to hit the iron yet another week.


Pressing On........

[Smoky]

PCT is going well. Still making gains. Once again I adding Creatine and glutamine back into the mix. Feeling pretty good overall, and the cardio is in place. I have had two cheat meals (mexican and pizza) during PCT with no apparent negative effects. Kept the quantities reasonable and didnt go overboard.

Any questions let them rip. I puposely post only what I feel is of relelvance to share. Figuring most dont wish to be bored with the same old. I appologize if I overlooked something, or just ask and I will attempt to answer to the best of my ability.

Press On...

[biker340]

Smoky,

How did you space your dosage of SD when you went to 30mg/d??

I am just finishing up my second week at 20 mg/d and feeling little effects with no sides.. I am 250lbs so I am going to bump it to 30 for the last week.

Thanks

[Spartan117]

Originally Posted by Smoky

PCT is going well. Still making gains. Once again I adding Creatine and glutamine back into the mix. Feeling pretty good overall, and the cardio is in place. I have had two cheat meals (mexican and pizza) during PCT with no apparent negative effects. Kept the quantities reasonable and didnt go overboard.

Any questions let them rip. I puposely post only what I feel is of relelvance to share. Figuring most dont wish to be bored with the same old. I appologize if I overlooked something, or just ask and I will attempt to answer to the best of my ability.

Press On...

You said you had two cheat meals, but when I did my cycle on SD I had a huge appetite. Have you had ant trouble controlling that? Seemed Like I wanted a cheat meal everyday.

[Smoky]

Originally Posted by biker340

Smoky,

How did you space your dosage of SD when you went to 30mg/d??

I am just finishing up my second week at 20 mg/d and feeling little effects with no sides.. I am 250lbs so I am going to bump it to 30 for the last week.

Thanks

I took it as a single dose in the AM.

[Smoky]

Originally Posted by Spartan117

You said you had two cheat meals, but when I did my cycle on SD I had a huge appetite. Have you had ant trouble controlling that? Seemed Like I wanted a cheat meal everyday.

I hope this answer does not over complicate it. Yes the temptations are there, but with age comes discipline. It is much easier now that it was when I was 20 something. When I say cheat, I mean other than eating clean. I did not restrict calories if my body tells me otherwise. (unless I am cutting so to speak) I eat instinctively as much as I can. Understand as I see it the body adapts and adjusts always. (Some might better see this as "get used too conditions") So once I calculate my meals and get used to them, it is easy to let the body tell me. I find that it is easier to stay leaner for me. I put on weight very easy. I feel the closer you can get to harmony with your body the better you are emotionally and physically. As we age we learn to not take so much for granted mostly. So I am always watching and sensitive to changes. Experience tells me how to respond in respect to my diet. As I learn about other substances I also learn how my body responds. Every now and then a new twist comes along, so dont go and get to complacent, it is quite easy to fall into it. Example would be pGH. I find that I very easily feel hypoglycemic if I dont eat often enough.

Pretty much boils down to learn your body naturaly without enhancements. With the aquired skills you will be able to master the macros and WO's. Adding anything else at that point builds on that foundation with good results and retainability. It's all about what and how we eat ....

[Smoky]

All is well. Strength holding and BF is melting away. It appears the addition of pGH to PCT has been a good choice.

[Smoky]

I must say this PCT is not at all what I expected. The addition of pGH seems to be the major component bringing the BF down faster than I could have imagined. I am consuming at least maintenance calories (clean) and still losing BF at quite a rate. This morning my weight is back to 194 which is one pound heavier than when I started my cycle. I am still able to push the weights and managing to make smaller gains as well. No doubt I am leaner all around. I have lost some size which I believe is mostly due to BF reduction, and increased in some areas. The most significant change is in the waist line. There is no doubt that it also has effected my appetite. I tend to feel a tightness if you will within the stomach itself. Until I consume adequate calories and protien it holds constant. The single most significant factor I notice is that endurance/stamina are not as high as they were on cycle. I expected this none the less. So based on my current state of mind and present condition I look forward to the next growth cycle.

[Smoky]

3rd week of PCT and all is going according to plan. The libido seems down a bit, all else seems to be in order otherwise. I did the pGH after cardio this morning and noticed the rush was close to nil. The taste was weaker as well. Yesterday was Back and I got a great pump. Seemed better than anything I have had during this PCT. Still on track for my six pack summer...

[Old Poser]

Great log, Smoky!

A couple of q's....

What is your total PCT regimine?

What is pGH?