Short blast log

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  1. lol

    Oh, I should add that I added phenylpiracetam into the mix as well and hooolllyy balls. I am a noot guy and most of posts are in those threads, so I've done a lot of experimentation to find the perfect mixes. I will say that there is nothing I have tried that works like this for clear, non jittery, no crash energy. It's a great mix.


  2. Kisaj,

    What was your basis for the 125mg (250 A WEEK, RIGHT?) . I am thinking about doing 6 weeks at 200 mg twice a week. (1 ML AT 200MG/ML). If I can get a ggod pick-up at 250 per week, that would be awesome. I will probably have E2 and E3 issues unlike you.

    Thoughts?

    Also, do you think you will hold the gains (just keep the calories up?)
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  3. Pappy-
    I chose 250 based on a few things:
    -I make gains and build muscle on 100mg a week and a big diet
    -I made large gains on 200mg a week when I first started a couple years back
    -I wanted to walk the line of going a comfortable limit on test and not risk e2 sides (mainly why I chose 125 e3.5d instead of 250ew)

    Yes, I do think I will keep most of this muscle. I've done an annual bulk (10-15lbs)for the last 6-7 years in the spring through diet and lifting alone, but it would take about 3 months to get where I am almost at in just under 1 month. It obviously helps to have a nice normal/high test levels to begin with through TRT and the boost makes things much faster. Generally what happens is the muscle and weight stay on for 4-5 months and then I start leaning out to about 205 just by being active all summer and fall and because I get sick of eating. If I kept up the 4-5k like I am doing now, I have no doubt I could keep the size on all year.

  4. Good log. Keep the updates coming. Glad you went this route.

    I know a lot of people like to say that you need x amount of test for a worthwhile blast but I don't buy it. I think get your calories in and training hard are just as important, if not more. Not everyone responds the same, per mg of test. Maybe, to be fair, some do need 500 or 600mg to make it worthwhile. I am almost a over responder. A little goes a long way for me.

    Question. I have some extra 200mg/1ml "single doses" left over. Do you think it would be better to try to get 2 100mg shots per week out of them or just do it once a week. I would like to keep E2 sides down as much as possible but I dont know if its worth it with these single dose vials. Wouldn't want to lose any through waste but don't want to feel crappier than I have to with E2 concerns.

    Any thoughts?

  5. I can only speak from personal experience, but I found that I respond much more favorably to 250 split into 2 than I did with a single 200mg injection.

    Similar to you, I cringe when I see the workouts and diets of so many people that think 500mg of test is going to make them turn the corner. I was lifting naturally much bigger numbers than a lot of guys running gear are. TRT has only served to help my recovery times and body comp.
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  6. Look how late I am...
    Good to see you:
    A) logging and
    B) extending your cycle within a few days of starting

  7. I imagine that cycles in the 400-500 range would cause E2 issues yet I see many posts that indicate otherwise.
    I look forward to your final results and congrats on success to date.

  8. Quick update:

    Weight seems to be staying in the 210-212 range now, but I had a sudden strength spurt the last couple gym sessions. I've mixed in front squats and incline bench in place of squats and fl bench for the last couple weeks. Nothing to gauge increase on, but I look like I have packed on so much weight.

    DL- repped at 365 x 8 and then went singles up to a 515 pull today. Never done that before.
    Squat 405 x 4 (damn knees keeping this down because my legs want about 50lbs more)
    Fr Squats- repped 275 x 5
    Incline- 275 x 5
    Bench - 335 x 1

    All in all, I am up on everything about 10-15% and I feel like I could walk through a wall. My mood is very mellow- which is odd, but quite comforting because I am in great spirits. Libido is very healthy. Sleep has improved from the beginning weeks, but still not great. Other than that, no sides to speak of.

    I have this week and next week and then will keep my diet up and cut back to TRT doses.

    I'll say that I am completely sold on a low dose blast and plan to do it again at the end of summer. To see gains in weight, lifts, and a total transformation (IMO) of composition in such a short time is incredible.

  9. Wow awesome blast cycle! ! Now your next job is to do your best to keep as much of this newly earned muscle as possible.

  10. Your trt doctor is gonna be like WTF happened to you. Lol

  11. Awesome information and great results.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Vinnyboombots View Post
    Your trt doctor is gonna be like WTF happened to you. Lol
    Quite honestly my only concern. I just had bloods and a new script done on May 8th, which is why I timed it to start the day after. I still have a couple of months, but if he saw me today, he'd be like, "ummmmm" LOL

  13. I am glad I posted this here because I feel like if I posted in the Anabolics forum, all I would hear is "why didn't you go for 500 ew and 10lb gain is weak.."

    I figure we can appreciate a low key gain and stay within non-side levels to see what can be accomplished.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I am glad I posted this here because I feel like if I posted in the Anabolics forum, all I would hear is "why didn't you go for 500 ew and 10lb gain is weak.."

    I figure we can appreciate a low key gain and stay within non-side levels to see what can be accomplished.
    The difference between the 20 year old section and +35
    Most of us here have adopted the less is more mentality vs the more is better.
    Good work man. Gains are great for confidence. Funny because I gained something like 12lbs last time I went to the trt endo. He talked to me for 2 seconds about watching what I eat, then interrupted himself and mumbled that some of my weight gain has to be muscle...and testosterone will do that. I wanted to laugh but waited until I got home

  15. The timing on this is great. I too just had my yearly physical and was asked about my weight gain. It has been six months since my last visit. I was a little taken aback when my doc asked "I see you are a bit heavier than your last visit. Whats up with that?" I was a little leery of the question and just responded with "been trying to work out a little more and had bad diet habits the last couple of weeks". Both actually true but I was mainly trying to kind of brush it off. She was cool with my answer.

    Yesterday I pinned 100mg and plan to do it again on saturday. This will split my doses for my 200mg/week blast. I am not sure how long I will go. Of course this all depends on my blood work coming back okay. It has in the past so I am making an assumption.

    Ditto on the "small" amount for the blast. Maybe not a lot for some monsters out there but I believe it will be plenty for me.

    Kisaj, I'll piggyback on your thread if thats okay. If not, thats cool, and I'll make an effort to start a new thread.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by UJMRYDER View Post
    Kisaj, I'll piggyback on your thread if thats okay. If not, thats cool, and I'll make an effort to start a new thread.

    Absolutely, go for it. I just started this as a way to track myself and to provide a little insight if anyone had interest. If you are doing something similar, pass along your experiences.

  17. Will do. I'll get a starting weight tomorrow morning and try to post some updates.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    The difference between the 20 year old section and +35
    Most of us here have adopted the less is more mentality vs the more is better.
    Good work man. Gains are great for confidence. Funny because I gained something like 12lbs last time I went to the trt endo. He talked to me for 2 seconds about watching what I eat, then interrupted himself and mumbled that some of my weight gain has to be muscle...and testosterone will do that. I wanted to laugh but waited until I got home
    Even at 52 my mind thinks I am still 25, but my body knows better. Your point is very well made. Older is usually smarter....KISAJ's approach is very smart and he has be rewarded with a great gain and no lingering issues, job well done and a great example.

  19. Well I weighed in this morning but I am not sure if it is true.

    Starting weight is 178 lbs but I will re-weigh tomorrow morning.

    Had a welding class last night and possibly sweated off everything but two pints of water. Haha.

    Second pin will be Saturday morning. Still enough time to get an accurate starting weight.

  20. I will update my weight to 181 lbs. I'll consider this my starting weight.

    Saturday morning was my second pin. So Tuesday nights and saturday mornings 100 mg.

    Sunday's workout was great. Great energy, strength was maybe slightly better. Don't know if I can attribute that to the bump in test or not but we will see.

    Got my food in order this weekend and looking forward to eating better (and more).

    Weight was the same this morning.

  21. I've added in two additional shakes a day for the last week for an additional 1500 calories or so and that tipped me over. I weighed 215 yesterday and feel like I am the toughest thing on two legs. LOL. Until I try to maintain the cardio I am used to....

    I went on a trail ride yesterday doing the same 18-20 miles I normally do with some light climbs, drops, and just fast riding- and felt like I had a damn boulder strapped to me. I was getting winded easily and just dragging at the end. 10lbs ago I was destroying this circuit. Also, I find my self gassing in kick boxing in the later sparring rounds and going for the take down so I can lay on them into submission. hahaha

    So, good and bad at this point. I look enormous and get comments from just about everyone and catch people staring at me in the store and **** (likely because I am extremely vascular), so it feels nice. Also, my strength is up due to the extra grub intake and maybe a little bit due to the test, but I know test doesn't add a lot of strength. The bad being that I don't feel as functional in the activities I partake in. Eating a normal diet, I would walk around 200lbs. So, I started this around 205, a little over normal, but I was bulking. Now I sit at 215, so 10 lbs in about 5 weeks. Probably not good, but it was fun to see what I could do.

    I am going to finish this up, cut back to TRT, and cut back to about 3500-4000 calories, which will be a little over maintenance and try to get my cardio back up. If I can look like I do now, keep the strength, and hover around 208-210, I will be stoked.

    Final numbers next week.

  22. Dang, I've got to get my diet in check. I've got another week of classes and that is killing my eating schedule.

    I'll be able to eat more next week and focus a little more on training as well. I know that getting enough food is essential and will pay big rewards. I probably should have waited until night classes were over but I was a little eager to start. Had just taken a week and one half off of training. I may have to go an extra couple of weeks with the blast to make up for it.

    Kisaj.............I blame you for starting when I did. Haha. This type of blast is just what I was looking for. I was on the fence about doing a "small" blast but you made a lot of good points about if you are already gaining and hopefully not running into many/any sides. If I do not make the progress I am hoping for it will probably be on the nutrition side. It also sounds like you feel pretty good about the weight being predominately muscle with your comment about vascularity. Nice work.

  23. Short and sweet and you still put on 10+lbs! Thanks for the log man!!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by UJMRYDER View Post
    If I do not make the progress I am hoping for it will probably be on the nutrition side. It also sounds like you feel pretty good about the weight being predominately muscle with your comment about vascularity. Nice work.
    I think in most cases when there is an issue with anything, it starts with nutrition. As I've mentioned, I've done bulks for many years, but this is the first time I have basically cut that in half time wise. I feel great, but my body has not had the extra 6-8 weeks to get used to the weight like it has in the past.
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