First time ever

[O2bme]

I weigh about 183 and now wanting to bulk up to about 200 I guess. Not trying to be body builder big, but a nice ripped look. Any suggestion on what to take? I was suggested testosterone and also clembutarol (or however you spell it). Please advise.

 

[threeFs]

Oh wow...
Without age/height/weight/training history/and goals, it's tough to help you.

Clen is used as a cutting assistant
IMO Test is used generally to bulk but might be used to cut if diet is in check.

 

[O2bme]

Sorry. I'm 35 years old, 36 in two weeks. 6'00", pretty good diet. No health issues.

 

[O2bme]

I'm a police officer. I run, do p90x, and occasionally loft weights with other officers at the gym.

 

[threeFs]

I'm a police officer. I run, do p90x, and occasionally loft weights with other officers at the gym.

You will be breaking the law...is that ethical?

 

[O2bme]

Hey is there anyone perfect in this world?!?!?! You've seen what we deal with. Guys like you we stand not a chance. Trying to level the playing field. I lie going home at the end of my shifts.

 

[threeFs]

Hey is there anyone perfect in this world?!?!?! You've seen what we deal with. Guys like you we stand not a chance. Trying to level the playing field. I lie going home at the end of my shifts.

I'd start with testosterone cyp or enanthate (long esters) at 500mg/week, injecting Tues/Fri. About 8 weeks. You also need an aromatase inhibitor. I like exemestane, some guys use arimidex. No clen right now. Lift heavy weights and you will feel and look awesome.

 

[PaulBlack]

Can I ask how long you have lifted with focus and concentration on the big compound moves?
2 cents...
With a little bit of patience, a good bit of quality squatting, deadlifting, OHP's/BP's and heavy back work/rowing and good food, you can do a hell of a lot of big mass/strength building, nice weight gain and no real worries about balancing hormones etc., until you are "really ready" for perhaps the next big step!?

 

[O2bme]

I lift off and on. Very sporadic. Problem is my time to put it a good routine to keep it up. Once I get started I end up having to stop.

 

[PaulBlack]

Honestly, you only need 1 good hour, 3 or so times per week

 

[threeFs]

Honestly, you only need 1 good hour, 3 or so times per week

This. ^^^ If you're not putting in the work, steroids aren't going to do anything.

 

[bill1369]

This. ^^^ If you're not putting in the work, steroids aren't going to do anything.

Can any of you give me some advice regarding T- replacement. (I am 66 and been lifting about 25 yrs and have done about a 2 hour workout 4X/wk for last few yrs.) I have used Androgel regularly for last 7 or 8 years which gives me a good T score. But I am now living in Thailand and my US Dr has told me he cannot write me more Rx's for the pharmacy to mail without seeing me. So I am set to run out of Androgel 1.62% in another month. However, in Thailand, I have can have my Thai Dr give me the 3-month injectable T-replacement that is approved in Europe. Has anyone had any experience with this form of T? (BTW: my PSA last month was 0.38; also I am a Type 2 diabetic for last 35 yrs with no complications.) I have tried reading up on it but without US approval there is not much literature. Maybe a 'hands on' guy can give me some info. Thanks.