41 lacking Libido, erection strength and sexual endurance....Help

[zenstinkfist]

I would need to see some scientific evidence About protein having adverse effect of libido, testicular size and anything along those lines. The last 2 endos I have seen have spent more time lecturing me about going tanning once a week than listening to how I feel and explaining why my free test and TT are low.

I just got back from my Endo visit. I feel the same as you do, he lectured me about all the sups and things like that again. He also said that he can't do anything because my nubers are in the correct "range". That's great, he told me that over time I should be normal again. So frustrated, I also schduled another apt. with my Urologist, If he doesn't do anthing then I'm going to start taking my Sups listed in the first post of this thread. If I can lower my E2 and increase test then I am willing to bet I will feel like a new man and have my sex drive back, more energy etc....

I'm not sure what else I can do? Any Ideas?

[bushyman]

I would need to see some scientific evidence About protein having adverse effect of libido, testicular size and anything along those lines. The last 2 endos I have seen have spent more time lecturing me about going tanning once a week than listening to how I feel and explaining why my free test and TT are low.

I agree. I looked around the internet for some scientific documentation but didn't find anything regarding extra protein intake and testicular atrophy. I did find an article on Soy protein and its potential effects on Testosterone in males as well as testicular shrinkage but when I looked a their work cited, couldn't find any medical citations.

[zenstinkfist]

I agree. I looked around the internet for some scientific documentation but didn't find anything regarding extra protein intake and testicular atrophy. I did find an article on Soy protein and its potential effects on Testosterone in males as well as testicular shrinkage but when I looked a their work cited, couldn't find any medical citations.

When I was in my 20's or so I used to drink a lot of soy milk with my shakes but I haven't done that in a while, not sure if that has caused any of my issues or not.

[jsals22]

Been researching a lot on soy bc have Hashimotos and hard to find protein or protein bar w out some sort of soy or soy product in it

[bushyman]

When I was in my 20's or so I used to drink a lot of soy milk with my shakes but I haven't done that in a while, not sure if that has caused any of my issues or not.

I don't think the research is conclusive so I would not worry about until anything is 100% confirmed. In Asia they consume soy and I have not heard males suffering from low testosterone in masses. Albeit what I am saying is anecdotal, but think about that for a second.

[zenstinkfist]

I'm not sure but the DR's just look at a range and if you fall between that range there isn't a problem. I'm 5'4 170 lbs, if the DR goes by the BMI index I'm obese! But in reality I'm not, but the DR will tell me I need to lose weight! My Endo was more concerned about his liability than anything today. He told me since I'm in the "normal" range he can't give me test because of the side effects and the judge would come after him! He even referenced Michael Jackson's DR's case hahahaha. Even though I tell him I know I don't feel right etc... Oh well, I think my Urologist is more open minded about this and may try something to make me feel better. I will know on the 28th and let you know how it goes.

[bushyman]

Well good luck dude! Sure you'll be fine. Did you try anything anyone suggested for the time being on this post?

[zenstinkfist]

Well good luck dude! Sure you'll be fine. Did you try anything anyone suggested for the time being on this post?

Thanks man, I hope I feel better soon. I have tried a lot of things, I haven't taken any of my sups yet. I have just been eating clean and not sups for the last few months. But there hasn't been a change in my situation yet. So who knows.

[delcapone]

I didnt read everyones response, but while on test/tren cycle i started taking caber 1/2 mg. 2 times a week sex drive inreased dramatically, memory also improve d purchased from mpresearch. Vefy affordable feel free to pm. Me oh and im 52 yrs old off cycle right now but still taking it

[zenstinkfist]

I didnt read everyones response, but while on test/tren cycle i started taking caber 1/2 mg. 2 times a week sex drive inreased dramatically, memory also improve d purchased from mpresearch. Vefy affordable feel free to pm. Me oh and im 52 yrs old off cycle right now but still taking it

Thanks,
What is caber? I never heard of it.

[lexmuscle]

Thanks,
What is caber? I never heard of it.

Cabergoline/Dostinex , lowers prolactin levels, dopamine agonist

[zenstinkfist]

Cabergoline/Dostinex , lowers prolactin levels, dopamine agonist

Thanks! I think some of the sups I have listed in the first post do the same as this one, no? I haven't taken any sups just yet, I have one more visit to the DR's and then I will decide what to do based on his response.

[Handytom]

I d avena sativa(also for nicotine urges, quit for the most part)
tribulus
macuna prureins(good on moods, good for libid, slows me down a bit, and recharge faster)
saw palmetto for DHT

also tongkat ali works wonder on overall performance

[zenstinkfist]

I saw my Urologist today, finally something positive to post. He's going to review my blood tests and if he thinks my test in in the range but in the low end of the ranges he is going to try some test shots and see how I do. I told him I do not want creams due to my 6 year old daughter. I also asked about spreading out the shots instead of one large one everymonth and he said he would look into it. Finally a Dr is willing to at least try something and see if it helps me out. I will know more soon and will update you again.

[zenstinkfist]

Well back to the same old thing. My Urologist contacted me today and said all my tests are normal. So he wont give me anything at this point. So I'm stuck in the same place as I was 10 months ago. Not sure what to do now?

[lexmuscle]

I d avena sativa(also for nicotine urges, quit for the most part)
tribulus
macuna prureins(good on moods, good for libid, slows me down a bit, and recharge faster)
saw palmetto for DHT

also tongkat ali works wonder on overall performance

Why would you want to lower your DHT? Talk about a performance killer. As long as your DHT isn't sky high, don't take anything to lower it.

[zenstinkfist]

Why would you want to lower your DHT? Talk about a performance killer. As long as your DHT isn't sky high, don't take anything to lower it.

I'm not, but I'm going to try the daa and erase pro now that my Dr. will not do anything. I don't know what else to do at this point.

[Handytom]

...took it bc I read somewhere that if you raise your test thru macuna, tribulus, and sativa, ones hair could fall out..so the saw palmetto helps counteract DHT.funnny thng is that it does dampen performance somewhat

[zenstinkfist]

I don't care to much about DHT. If I have to shave my head so be it. I'm 42 so who cares at this point LOL. Plus my ears are small LOL!

[Handytom]

rsther have hair