41 lacking Libido, erection strength and sexual endurance....Help

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    oh for sure, you could be getting more aromatase and conversion to estrogen for one thing. I just wanted to point out that the LDL is the substrate for hormone production, and so diets too low in saturated fat are a bad idea just due to limiting your hormones.
    Interesting, I do notice that my hair is thinning more and my hairline is moving north more and more haha. So do you suggest eating more saturated fats as well? I do eat low saturated fats I tend to eat walnuts, almonds, avocados, fish oil, pumpkin seeds etc to get my fats. I guess trying coconut oil might work because that is very high in saturated fats. But aren't sat fats voodoo!! I mean bad for the heart etc... I guess all in moderation.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by zenstinkfist View Post
    Interesting, I do notice that my hair is thinning more and my hairline is moving north more and more haha. So do you suggest eating more saturated fats as well? I do eat low saturated fats I tend to eat walnuts, almonds, avocados, fish oil, pumpkin seeds etc to get my fats. I guess trying coconut oil might work because that is very high in saturated fats. But aren't sat fats voodoo!! I mean bad for the heart etc... I guess all in moderation.
    I have also noticed that I retain water more as well. Kind of like bloated at times. High Estrogen maybe? This would also cause a lack of libido correct?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by zenstinkfist View Post
    Interesting, I do notice that my hair is thinning more and my hairline is moving north more and more haha. So do you suggest eating more saturated fats as well? I do eat low saturated fats I tend to eat walnuts, almonds, avocados, fish oil, pumpkin seeds etc to get my fats. I guess trying coconut oil might work because that is very high in saturated fats. But aren't sat fats voodoo!! I mean bad for the heart etc... I guess all in moderation.
    does sound like high estrogen + high dht.

    Well, if you have time, find the book good calories bad calories by gary taubes
    http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-.../dp/1400033462

    and read it. Saturated fat in and of itself, and even high cholesterol levels in and of themselves do not show increased mortality rates in the absence of high triglyceride levels. We're still all suffering under the disastrous non-science that created the american heart association diet and we're paying the consequences.

    Heart health wise you'd be 10x better off never eating a carb from any grain and only from whole fruits and root vegetables, and having 40% of your calories from fat.

  4. Very cool I will have to check that out. I tend to stay away from (bad)carbs I guess, for the most part I eat veggies and for bread I eat Ezekiel bread. I do like sweet potatos and some wheat pasta at times. I do have an apple a day for fruit. I'm trying to get cut so maybe I need to rework my diet at times.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    does sound like high estrogen + high dht.

    Well, if you have time, find the book good calories bad calories by gary taubes
    http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-.../dp/1400033462

    and read it. Saturated fat in and of itself, and even high cholesterol levels in and of themselves do not show increased mortality rates in the absence of high triglyceride levels. We're still all suffering under the disastrous non-science that created the american heart association diet and we're paying the consequences.

    Heart health wise you'd be 10x better off never eating a carb from any grain and only from whole fruits and root vegetables, and having 40% of your calories from fat.
    Im a fan of Gary Taubes too. His research is spot on.
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  6. Not only is that book outstanding, but also his ,"Why we get fat" and Dr. Eades "Protein Power"

    Those three books changed my life. I lost 55lbs of fat with dietary changes from their tips.

  7. yeah, coupling a bit of taubes dietary with intermittent fasting makes for enjoyable easy maintenance, fat loss, or lean gains just by little shifts. And its good eating the whole time.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    yeah, coupling a bit of taubes dietary with intermittent fasting makes for enjoyable easy maintenance, fat loss, or lean gains just by little shifts. And its good eating the whole time.
    Bingo!
    Seem like you have drawn the same conclusion I have.

  9. Just an update, I saw the Urologist today, he said my free test was in normal range. I didn't see the numbers yet they will be mailed to me I hope. He want's me to get an ultra sound done to check blood flow down there. He also gave me some viagra to try... Not sure how that will help with my libido. I see him again Nov 14th for a follow up. So round and round we go and still no answers. I guess I should demand full test on all of my hormones etc... I have held off on the sups for now but I'm tired of waiting. I want to see if they help but I will hold off some more.

  10. ask to see your blood work. What he deems normal and what it is normal for you could be two different things.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post
    ask to see your blood work. What he deems normal and what it is normal for you could be two different things.
    I should be getting them in the mail. But how do I know what is normal for me? He's telling me that it could be stress lack of sleep etc...everything but low test. Oh and the fact that I'm 41 and as we age our libido drops LOL

  12. Quote Originally Posted by zenstinkfist View Post
    I should be getting them in the mail. But how do I know what is normal for me? He's telling me that it could be stress lack of sleep etc...everything but low test. Oh and the fact that I'm 41 and as we age our libido drops LOL
    if the numbers don't show low test, then its not low test. This is silver bullet syndrome, you have an answer that you think will fix everything so you want to try to bend reality so that the silver bullet will work.

    Wait till you see the results and find out what he tested. Try the viagra. Then go from there. Stress + lack of sleep are the 2 biggest causes of libido drop / sexual dysfunction in men.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by zenstinkfist View Post
    I should be getting them in the mail. But how do I know what is normal for me? He's telling me that it could be stress lack of sleep etc...everything but low test. Oh and the fact that I'm 41 and as we age our libido drops LOL
    Just post them here and will tell you. There is prob an underlying cause
    Everything should be on the table till he gets to the bottom of it.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post
    Just post them here and will tell you. There is prob an underlying cause
    Everything should be on the table till he gets to the bottom of it.
    Ok guys thanks for your help. Here are the results and they are on the low side if you ask me.

    Ferritin
    Me 36.4
    Range - 26-388

    I'm low here

    Total T4

    Me 7.7
    Range 4.5-12.1

    I look normal here

    TSH

    Me 2.13
    Range .0358-3.740

    Look normal here

    Test, Total

    Me 481

    Range 250-1100

    I'm low here

    Test Free

    Me 68.8
    Range 46.0 - 224.0
    I'm low here too

    Testosterone Bioavail

    Me 147.6
    Range 110-575
    I'm low here

    Sex Hormone Bind Glob

    Me 30
    Range 10-50
    Looks normal

    Albumin

    Me 4.7
    Range 3.6 - 5.1
    Looks normal

    In my opinion I'm on the very low side of a lot of these ranges and that doesn't sit well with me. Of course the DR's will say you look normal yada yada but I know I don't feel normal. Maybe I need to be at the higher end of some of these ranges to feel right??

    I feel like it's when the DR will tell you you're obese because your BMI is high. When in reality you have a 6 pack and 18 inch arms... JOKE

  15. but those aren't low. The range is the NORMAL range. 481 for total testosterone is totally fine and there is no way that is a cause for ED. There are pro athletes with that for a testosterone level. Without seeing estrogen, prolactin and maybe dht, i'd say that horomones don't appear to have anything to do with your issues.

  16. Your iron levels may be a bit low. Look into that.
    Free test is on the low side.
    Where is the LH and E2?
    If the E2 is high the LH will be low big piece of the puzzle right there and prob where your issue might be.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    but those aren't low. The range is the NORMAL range. 481 for total testosterone is totally fine and there is no way that is a cause for ED. There are pro athletes with that for a testosterone level. Without seeing estrogen, prolactin and maybe dht, i'd say that horomones don't appear to have anything to do with your issues.
    Hmm but I don't have ED I can get an erection with no problems. My Libido is the issue. They look low to me to be honest. Just because they fall in a range and they are indeed on the low side of some of these ranges IMO. This doesn't mean "I" shouldnt be at a higher range to feel better right? Everone is different and If my test needs to be at 800-900 to feel better then that's what it is for me correct?

    I guess I need to see if I can get my Estrogen Prolactin and dht tested too. Man this is a pain in the ass, why dont the dr's just run all the test the first time.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by zenstinkfist View Post
    Hmm but I don't have ED I can get an erection with no problems. My Libido is the issue. They look low to me to be honest. Just because they fall in a range and they are indeed on the low side of some of these ranges IMO. This doesn't mean "I" shouldnt be at a higher range to feel better right? Everone is different and If my test needs to be at 800-900 to feel better then that's what it is for me correct?

    I guess I need to see if I can get my Estrogen Prolactin and dht tested too. Man this is a pain in the ass, why dont the dr's just run all the test the first time.
    if desire is the problem and not performance, there is just about 0 chance it is hormonal related. if it was hormone related, you'd have performance issues on top of desire. Stress, lack of sleep, change of medication, other psychological issues etc are way more likely culprits.


    There would have to be something else wrong for you to "need" 800-900, as odds are good your testosterone level was only that high for a few years between 18-22, if it was ever that high. When you try to treat an issue not caused by one hormone by raising the level of that hormone, sure you may be able to make it go away but at the same time you are then just starting to create new issues over time. "Everyone is different" has nothing to do with what should be a functional range. If it is at all hormone related, its a hormone that you haven't had tested yet as all of those that you have above are in functional range.

    And just so as you more get what I mean, lets say your testosterone levels haev been more or less stable around 500 for the past 10 years. But 3-4 years ago, your estrogen started creeping up. A high estrogen level can dampen sex drive (but as I stated above should also then dampen performance). At the same time, raising your total testosterone now could cause the testosterone : estrogen ratio to get back to a point where your libido feels more normal again. But that would be a much higher estrogen level than now, which in and of itself can lead to other problems - more fat retention, i believe an additional trigger for BPH, hairloss, etc. But your testosterone level as it is without knowing what the other hormones are is definitely in functional range. Normall for a 41 year old, the range is reported more like 280-800 btw. It looks like your lab is using a more general "men over 21" range.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post
    Your iron levels may be a bit low. Look into that.
    Free test is on the low side.
    Where is the LH and E2?
    If the E2 is high the LH will be low big piece of the puzzle right there and prob where your issue might be.
    What is LH and E2? Estrogen and?

    So if my E2 is high and LH is low what can one do to fix that?
    Thanks

  20. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    if desire is the problem and not performance, there is just about 0 chance it is hormonal related. if it was hormone related, you'd have performance issues on top of desire. Stress, lack of sleep, change of medication, other psychological issues etc are way more likely culprits.


    There would have to be something else wrong for you to "need" 800-900, as odds are good your testosterone level was only that high for a few years between 18-22, if it was ever that high. When you try to treat an issue not caused by one hormone by raising the level of that hormone, sure you may be able to make it go away but at the same time you are then just starting to create new issues over time. "Everyone is different" has nothing to do with what should be a functional range. If it is at all hormone related, its a hormone that you haven't had tested yet as all of those that you have above are in functional range.

    And just so as you more get what I mean, lets say your testosterone levels haev been more or less stable around 500 for the past 10 years. But 3-4 years ago, your estrogen started creeping up. A high estrogen level can dampen sex drive (but as I stated above should also then dampen performance). At the same time, raising your total testosterone now could cause the testosterone : estrogen ratio to get back to a point where your libido feels more normal again. But that would be a much higher estrogen level than now, which in and of itself can lead to other problems - more fat retention, i believe an additional trigger for BPH, hairloss, etc. But your testosterone level as it is without knowing what the other hormones are is definitely in functional range. Normall for a 41 year old, the range is reported more like 280-800 btw. It looks like your lab is using a more general "men over 21" range.
    Thanks, one thing I do notice is that I'm retaining water more and my hair has thinned and I'm starting to lose some of my hair line as well. I'm shedding more and more. So I'm assuming Estrogen and dht are the issues there correct? I need to get those tested as well.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by zenstinkfist View Post
    Thanks, one thing I do notice is that I'm retaining water more and my hair has thinned and I'm starting to lose some of my hair line as well. I'm shedding more and more. So I'm assuming Estrogen and dht are the issues there correct? I need to get those tested as well.
    yep, and trying to raise your testosterone will only make the 2 of those worse. So although you might get some short term (first couple months) change from going on TRT, it would come back worse after once levels re-stabilize. Thats why finding something that is far off enough to be the cause is so important.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    yep, and trying to raise your testosterone will only make the 2 of those worse. So although you might get some short term (first couple months) change from going on TRT, it would come back worse after once levels re-stabilize. Thats why finding something that is far off enough to be the cause is so important.
    Ok so lets say my Estrogen and DHT are high, I'm not sure what LH is? What would one be able to do to fix those issues?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by zenstinkfist View Post
    Ok so lets say my Estrogen and DHT are high, I'm not sure what LH is? What would one be able to do to fix those issues?
    LH is leutenizing hormone.

    Don't fantasize about a cure. get the tests done, see where you are. Then when there is really enough data to point to likely causes, look for treating those whichever they are. Everything has mechanism available to treat it, its just finding out the realistic causes that counts.

    I still think it is more likely to not be fixed without looking at the mental aspect, because as I've said I can't recall ever hearing of someone with hormonal caused lack of libido but no performance issues. Far more normal with hormonal related is that the libido is normal and the performance is poor. Maybe not true ED, but unable to stay erect long enough to orgasm, unable to get fully hard, etc.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    LH is leutenizing hormone.

    Don't fantasize about a cure. get the tests done, see where you are. Then when there is really enough data to point to likely causes, look for treating those whichever they are. Everything has mechanism available to treat it, its just finding out the realistic causes that counts.

    I still think it is more likely to not be fixed without looking at the mental aspect, because as I've said I can't recall ever hearing of someone with hormonal caused lack of libido but no performance issues. Far more normal with hormonal related is that the libido is normal and the performance is poor. Maybe not true ED, but unable to stay erect long enough to orgasm, unable to get fully hard, etc.
    My main issues are lack or no libido and I don't get fully hard or my erections are not as strong as they used to be. I don't have the drive, stamina like I used to. I feel tired at times, I have water retention and I'm starting to lose my hair. I don't care about my hair I just want to get hard erections and have better performance in sex wise. Whatever path gets me to that point I will be happy.

  25. So when I go back to my DR what other tests do I need? E2, dht, LH anything else?
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