Cyp injection question
- 01-06-2013, 01:09 PM
- 01-06-2013, 06:57 PM
01-10-2013, 07:29 PM
01-12-2013, 08:58 AM
01-13-2013, 04:56 PM
I use a 23 gauge in my quads and do not have any problems.....I guess it is just personal preference.
01-15-2013, 07:44 AM
Ok, I just joined the site and I'm going to jump in and get a couple of my own questions answered here if I can...
I'm 45 and am taking test-e 250mg/wk. It is DynastyLabs 250mg/ml and I'm doing twice a week (.5ml per pin).
I am going to add 200mg/wk deca to this after 10 weeks (one bottle) of test' alone.
I did HGH for 6 months using insulin needles (100cc type) and that was my first experience sticking myself. Those were about 5/8" in length...very small, and I did Sub-Q to the stomach twice a week.
Ok, so now I've got this test' oil and I'm using 3ml 1.5" 23's into the quad. The first time I buried the needle and decided it was way too deep. I'm not very developed in the legs. The 2nd time I sunk about .75" and that's better, but I still get pain. So far I've only injected twice.
Frankly, this is more painful than HGH injections using thin pins by far but it was what I was instructed to do by my "advisors".
As it stands, both drawing and pushing test' oil through the 23 takes forever, and I really have to put some force to the plunger compared to what I'm used to.
I'd love to shoot sub-Q into fat like the HGH, but I don't see how the plunger could hold up to the force, and it seems like it would take 20min to push 1ml of test' oil through that tube if you went slow enough for the syringe to survive?
Also I was under the impression that test' (and deca) need to be injected into muscle although I don't know exactly why? I know that even with the larger needle (23), that I'd have less pain if I could inject into fat, but I have no idea how that changes the absorption?
01-15-2013, 08:37 PM
01-15-2013, 11:01 PM
01-16-2013, 12:44 AM
01-16-2013, 12:52 PM
I did feel a bit more youthful and my skin was a little tighter...eyes brighter...etc. I was also taking better care of myself during this time so it's hard to say what the source of the effect was (as it always is).
I have heard that taking HGH with other stacks makes your gains permanent by changing your baseline physique, and of course that is what I would like to do, so when I can afford it, I will add it again.
My goal is to look like that 70yo Cenogenics guy by the time I'm 50 (5 years from now), and stay that way until death (which with my luck will be 51..lol)
As for injecting test'/deca SQ into fat, I'm really curious about this now. I plan to "stay on" until I reach the physique I'm after, and that could take a few years, and once I decide I don't wish to grow anymore, at least stay on T and HGH for maintenance.
A slower absorption would seem to be ideal for this. I'm wondering though if there are other reasons you need to inject intramuscular besides absorption rate? There could be other reasons like antibodies destroying the product while it "waits" too long to be absorbed.
The answers to this I do not know, but would like to.
The main thing for me is pain and soreness. Like I said, I've only pinned twice now in the quad's. I know you can pin in the glute's but I'm just one of those who isn't comfortable with that (using a mirror..etc.). Both times I've been sore in the quad's even varying the depth and the soreness takes 3 days to go away.
On that schedule (two pins a week forever), I'll always be sore *somewhere*. If there's a way around that, I'd like to find it.
01-16-2013, 01:12 PM
01-23-2013, 11:50 PM
When I first started injecting I went lateral quad and I had the same pain you had described. I use left glute one week then switch to the right glute. No pain, minimal vessels to hit and not as nervy as quads. Technique to find sweet spot is: with your right had index finger find your iliac crest which is top of hip, then with your thumb behind or in an open position fix your index finger on the crest then move your thumb down I a sweeping motion. No mirror required
01-24-2013, 03:19 AM
01-24-2013, 03:22 AM
dont know why every one uses quads. VG is ten time easier and no pain!
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01-24-2013, 08:20 AM
Right in the glute with 25g. I pull with an 18g so it takes about 2 seconds and then switch needles. The whole process takes about a minute.
01-26-2013, 04:26 PM
Using a 25 gauge. I have been improving technique over time and have found if I inject S L O W L Y I have less "day after" pain. Since trying glute injections I have not gone back to delts and never will.
01-26-2013, 07:16 PM
01-26-2013, 09:10 PM
01-28-2013, 12:34 PM
No one else here does subcutaneous injections?
I have been doing this for a year now.
Got the idea form ChocolateMilk on the Anabolic forum here.
2 injections of 100mg each a week into flanks or inner thighs
So much easier
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01-28-2013, 01:49 PM
02-02-2013, 03:40 PM
02-05-2013, 01:11 AM
Yeah I use Cyp with a 1.5/ 23 at 200mg 2x wk. My wife does it for me. She's a champ at drawing out that test LOL. She shoots in my glutes. I switch everytime I shoot. Never have pain in the glutes but when I would shoot myself in the lateral quad. Hot damn I would get massive PIP... I remember one time doc gave me a 300mg shot in the lateral quad. I thought I blew my ****ing leg out. Had to take pain pills for 2 days lmao. I also had that blood shoot out once. Definitely not cool when I wasn't expecting it LOL... Getting ready to start my dbol for 4 weeks to kick start this Cyp as I up it then finish of with some Anavar the last 6 wks. Should b good
02-05-2013, 08:56 AM
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