Most guys use HCG, which stimulates the LH/leydig cells, keeping things going. You're still shut down, but stimulating production.
I think most is stretching it. A lot do, but many doctors don't presribe HCG alongside TRT
Ok, I'll restate it: Everyone I know on TRT usues HCG and their doctors will prescribe HCG if asked. My "pool" is probably 30 or so that I know for certain. If your doctor will not prescribe HCG, then I'd get a new doctor. However, let me caveat this by saying that many do as I do and grab HCG from other sources for a variety of reasons. We used AAS before going on TRT so have a ready source of supply that we do not want to lose. So who knows what the percentage is of those that use HCG and those that don't, but anyone who was knowledgable about AAS going into TRT will more than likely use HCG.
So wouldnt it make sense to just prescribe hcg first
Ive seen a lot of people say once their test levels are in the nirmal range the treatmentt is stopped
then they are idiots.
It would make perfect sense to me, but I'm not a doctor. Many doctors are ill prepared to address a TRT program. To put it bluntly, they don't know s hit about TRT. That's why you have such a wide range of treatments for the same problem. Some doctors will prescribe 100mgs every month of test c and think that's all you need. That's insane. They really don't understand TRT that well so adding HCG in the program scares them because they don't know why, how much, etc. And you don't "need" it, but if you want to maintain some degree of normal production, this is one way to do it.
You beat me to the punch.
So someone like me for example- I have my diet and sleep in check. I rarely drink. I do have a lot of stress, but that will never go away with kids, big mortgage, my career, etc. My life is VERY stressful. My bloodwork shows on two tests about 3 weeks apart:
depends on what normal range is for LH on that test, but if its like most tests I think that is towards the low end but still inside normal, so it might help or might not.
No.
How old are you? What exactly are you trying to do? Don't forget that HCG is suppressive too, but not like testosterone. Are you willing to go on TRT for life or do you just want to see how you feel on test?
I'm 37 and the reason I went to doc originally was because I have always lived a very active life and I get annual blood work to make sure all the normal stuff (cholesterol, blood pressure, internals, etc. are good). I always come back with great results, but I have been feeling like a complete turd for about a year now. No sex drive, no motivation, get angry very easily, trouble dealing with stress, and my biggest complaint- foggy thinking. I've tried every brain sup available with minimal results.
Typical symptoms of Andropause. You could try something simple like DHEA, but I wouldn't hold out much hope. Other problems can affect test levels, like adrenal deficiencies and pituitary problems, so before you jump on TRT, you may want to get everything tested to rule out the obvious. Then if TRT is the solution, you'll feel like an 18 year old again.
Absolutely not. The LH level is not the only indicator of a healthy pituitary. It secretes a variety of important hormones, including adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH), growth hormone (GH), prolactin, gonadotropins (FSH and LH), and thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH). Not to mention pathogenic concerns, like tumors.
Thanks man...Yeah, that's me, 58 last January. John Meloncamp had it right, hang on to 16 as long as you can!
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