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    I got lab results and test levels are mid 300s. To do self medicated TRT and get test levels around 900 and maintain that level what type of test, how often, and hoe much?
    Same question with any axxy needed?
    Same question with HCG?


  2. 6/10cc to 8/10cc . why would you need arimadex if you are within normal range? you can use HCG but it spikes estrogen levels in some guys.
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  3. It's different for everyone. I would start with 100mg of test cyp a week (2 injections @ 50mg) and retest levels after 5 or 6 weeks then adjust accordingly.
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  4. If you are 55 I am sure a Dr. would not mind prescribing it to you. Any reason you want to do it yourself?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid
    If you are 55 I am sure a Dr. would not mind prescribing it to you. Any reason you want to do it yourself?
    Most docs won't get you over 700... my endo said that's where prostate problems begin.... I tweak my results by slacking off trt prior to labs.... and I get my adex and hcg elsewhere
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    If you are 55 I am sure a Dr. would not mind prescribing it to you. Any reason you want to do it yourself?
    cost mostly
    my insurance will not pay for it

  7. Quote Originally Posted by dirtwarrior View Post
    cost mostly
    my insurance will not pay for it
    Yeah that is what I thought.. I would do the same thing you are

  8. Quote Originally Posted by dirtwarrior

    cost mostly
    my insurance will not pay for it
    A bottle of testosterone cypionate costs $100 full price at the pharmacy,,, even at 200mg a week, which is almost double the normal trt dosage, it'll last you 10 weeks

  9. You can get your own labs done for close to $50 at privatemdlabs.com
  10. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by grngoloco View Post
    Most docs won't get you over 700... my endo said that's where prostate problems begin.... I tweak my results by slacking off trt prior to labs.... and I get my adex and hcg elsewhere
    my level has come in as high as 2200 day after injection, and my doctor hasn't changed it. Set to 150mg/wk

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtwarrior View Post
    cost mostly
    my insurance will not pay for it
    Sams club/Walmart sells 10ml vials for around $70. At normal TRT dosing, thats around 3 months worth, or $25ish a month.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL

    my level has come in as high as 2200 day after injection, and my doctor hasn't changed it. Set to 150mg/wk

    Sams club/Walmart sells 10ml vials for around $70. At normal TRT dosing, thats around 3 months worth, or $25ish a month.
    Lol,, I did say most and not all.... you're supposed to get checked day before, not after your injection .... the idea is to have your lowest point within a normal range ....
  12. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by grngoloco View Post
    Lol,, I did say most and not all.... you're supposed to get checked day before, not after your injection .... the idea is to have your lowest point within a normal range ....
    my low morning of day of injection is around 850-900, which he doesn't mind so long as PSA stays stable.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL

    my low morning of day of injection is around 850-900, which he doesn't mind so long as PSA stays stable.
    You're lucky,,, my Endocrinologist is really good, but a bit conservative,,, I lucked out though,, the pharmacy gives me a full 10ml bottle of test cyp a month, even though I'm only prescribed 125mg a week....all I do is not dose for a week and a half before labs to keep my levels in range of her expectations then I can cruise at 300mg a week and blast at 600......

  14. I have to have a talk with my doc. my doc signed off on my physical and gave the OK for my TRT through a anti aging clinic last year. I have to see if he will just prescribe me what I need. He knows I have been low for years now. I rather go spend 70$ dollars at walmart then to pay this damn clinic again.

  15. Plus I only pay $10 a bottle...

  16. your insurance covers it?

  17. Yep...... was on androgel for over a year,,, paid $30 for over $1000 worth every month....... I'm sure they're a lot happier with my switch to test cyp lol..... I have really good insurance though,,, don't even need referrals to see specialists

  18. I need to find out if my insurance covers it. I don't want to go back to the gel. I hated the gel.

  19. what brand does walmart prescribe?
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    mine (united) covers testim or injectible cyp, but not androgel.
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  21. mine is (medco)

  22. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL
    mine (united) covers testim or injectible cyp, but not androgel.
    After making the switch to test cyp, I can't imagine why anyone would use a gel.... especially since i don't have to worry about my girl growing hair on her chest and my nine year old getting his growth stunted
  23. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanzdslpwr1 View Post
    mine is (medco)

    well, thats who mine maill order is fulfilled through, I pay $25 every 3 months for 13 1ml vials of cyp. My doctor writes the script as a single 10ml vial, but medco persists in the pile of 1ml vials.
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  24. they send you 13 10cc vials? did I read that right?
  25. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by grngoloco View Post
    After making the switch to test cyp, I can't imagine why anyone would use a gel.... especially since i don't have to worry about my girl growing hair on her chest and my nine year old getting his growth stunted
    well, with the androgel 1.62% now you can apply in a good bit smaller area. the gels give your body a higher DHT conversion rate (injectible converts to DHT at a lower rate than natural, still not sure the reason) and much more normal through the day fluctuations of testosterone level. If you look at data, average young man with a testosterone of 800 at waking up is down below 600 by 3 in the afternoon. It could be significantly lower by bedtime, the studies were grouped oddly so its hard to really get anything super accurate from it (they tested during 4 hour blocks rather than every hour per person). I would have liked to have tried that for a bit, just to see if it felt any better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanzdslpwr1 View Post
    they send you 13 10cc vials? did I read that right?
    no, 13 1ml vials. So each one I draw 3/4 ml out of then toss whats left.
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  27. Ohh sorry. I never saw 1cc vials before. I usually just get 5 10cc or 1ml vials per year. I wouldn't throw away that 1/4cc. give it to your dog or something!

  28. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL

    no, 13 1ml vials. So each one I draw 3/4 ml out of then toss whats left.
    What a waste,,, why wouldn't you just use it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grngoloco View Post
    What a waste,,, why wouldn't you just use it?
    well, if you look at it, if I religiously drew remaining out, every 3 months i'd end up with 3 extra ml, so accumulating enough to do a serious blast would take forever. And running at 200mg/week ends up with my hematocrit rising above top of normal which my doctors don't like, as that was what I was doing at first.
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  30. Makes sense,,, I give blood regularly to keep my hermatocrite regulated
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