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    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate2827
    My insurance sucks they will only pay for 2ml per month $15. The other 8 ml I can either buy or keep going to the drug store and hope they have some on hand.
    10 ml a month almost equals 500mg a week,, the maximum allowed by law.... seriously doubt any normal doctor will prescribe that much

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    Quote Originally Posted by grngoloco View Post
    10 ml a month almost equals 500mg a week,, the maximum allowed by law.... seriously doubt any normal doctor will prescribe that much
    a dr can legally give you 500 mg test per week?..seriously? lol
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    The insurance will pay that much. Dr will not prescribe that much but you can blast / cruise
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    Quote Originally Posted by grngoloco

    10 ml a month almost equals 500mg a week,, the maximum allowed by law.... seriously doubt any normal doctor will prescribe that much
    The prescription through my urologist is for a 10ml vial a month. It states that I'm to use .7ml weekly. Plenty of doctors prescribe the 10ml vials and I believe it costs the insurance company less than the multiple 1ml vials I would need for the month. They are trusting that you won't abuse it. The doc said each vial is good for a year so I'll have quite a collection in a few months.
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    wow talk about loop holes lol
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    The best part is it's only $10 a month. If I ever lose insurance ill be able to get by for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11

    The prescription through my urologist is for a 10ml vial a month. It states that I'm to use .7ml weekly. Plenty of doctors prescribe the 10ml vials and I believe it costs the insurance company less than the multiple 1ml vials I would need for the month. They are trusting that you won't abuse it. The doc said each vial is good for a year so I'll have quite a collection in a few months.
    I get the same thing,, prescribed 150mg a week and get a 10ml vial for $10.00
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    My stupid mail order just gives me the 1 ml vials. Even without my doctor would write a 10 ml as 90 days
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Is you script for more than 100mg a week?
    nope
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate2827
    nope
    If that's the case can't you get 2 1ml vials and have insurance cover your monthly presciption instead of paying extra for the other 8ml? It is hard to get 2 full 50mg doses out of each vial but I have done it.
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    The vials are slightly overloaded, 1.1-1.2ml/vial
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    The prescription through my urologist is for a 10ml vial a month. It states that I'm to use .7ml weekly. Plenty of doctors prescribe the 10ml vials and I believe it costs the insurance company less than the multiple 1ml vials I would need for the month. They are trusting that you won't abuse it. The doc said each vial is good for a year so I'll have quite a collection in a few months.

    That is soo freakin awesome!!! I need to find a doc like that.. Think Id like to switch from androgel to test shots.. Think its time for a change.. Ive ran the gel for a long time now!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpDogg

    That is soo freakin awesome!!! I need to find a doc like that.. Think Id like to switch from androgel to test shots.. Think its time for a change.. Ive ran the gel for a long time now!!
    Seems like its working out for you since you've been using it for a long time. I wasn't absorbing much of testim and went to shots after a month. I didn't like putting it on everyday either. My test cyp presciption is the only positive about my doctor. I have to really push to get minimal testing, his protocols are outdated, and he won't prescribe hcg or an ai if necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11

    Seems like its working out for you since you've been using it for a long time. I wasn't absorbing much of testim and went to shots after a month. I didn't like putting it on everyday either. My test cyp presciption is the only positive about my doctor. I have to really push to get minimal testing, his protocols are outdated, and he won't prescribe hcg or an ai if necessary.
    With androgel 1% having 10% absorption,, the best you can hope for is @ 100mg of absorbed test a week... that's with 12 pumps a day .... with that much gel caked up on you, your kids will never grow over four feet tall and will have mustaches at 8 yrs old... and your wife's clit will be the size of a plum.... all that for almost $1000 w/o insurance,,, for $100 a month you can go up to 500mg a week if you wish, and you know your family is safe, as well as knowing exactly how much your getting!!!
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    I would like to see her clit become like a plum though!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    If that's the case can't you get 2 1ml vials and have insurance cover your monthly presciption instead of paying extra for the other 8ml? It is hard to get 2 full 50mg doses out of each vial but I have done it.
    Yeah I can get it that way. But the prob here is the drug stores in this hick town doesn't have it on hand every month. Cvs has been out for 2 months now
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    What does your blast and cruise look like..see many diff protocols all over the web?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate2827
    What does your blast and cruise look like..see many diff protocols all over the web?
    Not sure if your asking me but I've never done it. I'm having a hard enough time trying to get my health together with my prescribed dose. I actually haven't used ph's or cycled anything before. Maybe ill consider it in the distant future since the option is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate2827
    What does your blast and cruise look like..see many diff protocols all over the web?
    That's because the details aren't as big a deal when you don't have to worry about recovery. Say you are normally at 100Mg every 5 days. Well that's your cruise, and blast at whatever level + time spam makes sense for your situation. 500 a week of cyp for 12 Weeks, 600 a week of prop for 8 Weeks, whatever
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Not sure if your asking me but I've never done it. I'm having a hard enough time trying to get my health together with my prescribed dose. I actually haven't used ph's or cycled anything before. Maybe ill consider it in the distant future since the option is there.
    and you have so much laying around lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid

    and you have so much laying around lol
    Yeah it's tempting but I have numerous health concerns that I'm currently trying to figure out. At this point it would only complicate everything I'm attempting to resolve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Yeah it's tempting but I have numerous health concerns that I'm currently trying to figure out. At this point it would only complicate everything I'm attempting to resolve.
    yeah for sure get health under control first then have some fun with it after everything is figured out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    That's because the details aren't as big a deal when you don't have to worry about recovery. Say you are normally at 100Mg every 5 days. Well that's your cruise, and blast at whatever level + time spam makes sense for your situation. 500 a week of cyp for 12 Weeks, 600 a week of prop for 8 Weeks, whatever
    i think you misunderstood me..i know what blast and cruise is and you dont have to worry about recovery if u r on trt..i was just wondering what the guys on this forum blast and cruise looked like..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate2827 View Post
    i think you misunderstood me..i know what blast and cruise is and you dont have to worry about recovery if u r on trt..i was just wondering what the guys on this forum blast and cruise looked like..
    I think you'll find exactly as many variations as you find people replying everyone does it differently, and they don't even necessarily do the blasts the same way each time, even if their cruise is the same every time. Mine varies a lot.
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    GREAT THREAD!!!

    I start TRT next week and look forward to it. Down side is that the Dr will only give the injections in his office and will not write prescriptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    GREAT THREAD!!!

    I start TRT next week and look forward to it. Down side is that the Dr will only give the injections in his office and will not write prescriptions.
    tell him to write u a scrip cuz u cant afford driving back and forth cuz of gas prices..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate2827
    tell him to write u a scrip cuz u cant afford driving back and forth cuz of gas prices..
    That could work. I don't know if you would have to pay for each of these office visits but if that's the case you could add that to the argument. However, if the doc makes all his money from in office injections or doesnt trust you for some reason I doubt anything would help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    GREAT THREAD!!!

    I start TRT next week and look forward to it. Down side is that the Dr will only give the injections in his office and will not write prescriptions.
    The sooner you get the doc to let you self-inject the more you are out to get in the script as far as dose goes. Why? Well, if you let him inject you for "x" number of weeks and he does blood work ever so often he will for sure know how much it takes to put you at what ever level "he" wants you at (most docs want you at mid-range at the highest).

    On the other hand, if you somehow get him to let you do it at home.......lol.....well, all you got to do is follow his directions up until about three weeks out from blood work and at that time stop your shots and you will for sure still be low and he will see a need to up your dose a bit to try and get you in range. After you do that a few times you will be getting a pretty hefty dose.

    When it comes to doing such things you have to really be carful as to know exactly when your doc expects the blood work cause if he calls you one day and say "hey, I need you to come in and give me blood today".......lol.....if your in the middle of a mini cycle of double or triple what he thinks your taking......well, lets just say he want be pleased.

    BTW, I had that to happen to me. What I did was this: I told the doc's nurse that called that I was on my way out of town and that I would not be back in town for a couple of weeks...........problem solved...........lol........ju st don't been seen during said time by anyone that may drop the dime on you. As a matter of fact the less people you tell your on trt the better off you are.

    Good luck
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    Some people begin trt due to serious health concerns and are just looking to live a functional life. If you are always fooling the doctor you will never know for yourself where you stand at certain doses (without private testing) and are putting your health at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    Some people begin trt due to serious health concerns and are just looking to live a functional life. If you are always fooling the doctor you will never know for youself where you stand at certain doses (without private testing) and are putting your health at risk.
    Exactly. The point of TRT isn't to beat the system to allow yourself to do "legal" cycles. People that are doing this are ruining it for the people that want to live a happy, functional life- which is very possible with mid to mid-high range test levels.
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