Poll: Is HRT worth it?

Is HRT worth it?

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  1. Im 57, done several OTC cycles, low dose pulses, not really up for blood work and all, but recovery from wo's is def diminished after decades of continuous exercise. However, I dont want to shut-down, using a patch or gel will do that. Thinking maybe that, without labs I wont know where Im at.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Knowbull View Post
    Im 57, done several OTC cycles, low dose pulses, not really up for blood work and all, but recovery from wo's is def diminished after decades of continuous exercise. However, I dont want to shut-down, using a patch or gel will do that. Thinking maybe that, without labs I wont know where Im at.
    I'm 53+. I've been working out for 35 years, been on TRT for 11 or 12. When I sought TRT therapy it was because I had extremely low energy, very poor thinking processes, no desire to accomplish or try anything and worst of all ED. Shut down was not a concern for me, it was a relief.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    Not telling you what to do (just discussing) but how about using DAA instead? At least you'd encouraging your own body to produce it's own hormones and Testosterone.I have been using DAA for about 10 days now and just noticed I a could lift my all in one toolbox effortlessly. This normally was a two handed struggle for me. Results are subtle so far.
    This. I took DAA without an AI at a time when I wasnt lean and aromataze was probably high. My balls still got bigger. Oh, and I was 24 with what was probably a good deal more test than what my friends have(I am a beast after all). Im willing to bet that a person whos test was in the gutter would respond even better, and with an AI, your balls would probably do a lot of growing to keep your test up for a good while. Just stay on the AI for two weeks after seasing the DAA, so you dont just get an estrogen flush shrinking your balls again. Lower th AI dosage if your joints start to hurt though

  4. Quote Originally Posted by DragonRider View Post
    I'm 53+. I've been working out for 35 years, been on TRT for 11 or 12. When I sought TRT therapy it was because I had extremely low energy, very poor thinking processes, no desire to accomplish or try anything and worst of all ED. Shut down was not a concern for me, it was a relief.
    Those symptoms are classic, the thing is, I dont want to go on if I can combat through other means, wise supplementation, exercise variation, low dose pulses, etc. but, realistically only labs can ascertain.

  5. DAA works. It also increases LH, which is also important for sex. Test injections wont increse LH. Adding an AI to make the DAA work better, should give you a test boost that you should at least experience once, to say you tried one last thing before a life of pharmacology. Plus, your at the age where DHEA is recomended to boost both health and test. I highly reccomend you try the DAA/AI stack with year round DHEA, and then well see if you cant ut off TRT for just a few more years.

  6. If t levels are low and someone wanted to do the HRT on the cheap with injectables what else is needed

  7. Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    DAA works. It also increases LH, which is also important for sex. Test injections wont increse LH. Adding an AI to make the DAA work better, should give you a test boost that you should at least experience once, to say you tried one last thing before a life of pharmacology. Plus, your at the age where DHEA is recomended to boost both health and test. I highly reccomend you try the DAA/AI stack with year round DHEA, and then well see if you cant ut off TRT for just a few more years.
    It appears you missed this post above (#29). LH is not important for sex. You are also not addressing long term safety concerns of DAA use while long term TRT already has a proven safety record.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonRider View Post
    You have to keep in mind that generally when a man needs TRT he is going to be older and is not producing the normal amount of testosterone even for a male in his age group. Older males will not be able to do anything, at this point in time, to restart normal production. Therefore, they will need something that can be used long term (literally, for the rest of their life).

    The current recommendations for DAA, say not to use it for more than 8 weeks. There are no long term studies to show what it will do if used longer than that time frame and there is already an article suggesting the possibility of kidney damage from long term use.

    If LH is so important for sexual function, it begs the question, how can men who have been castrated resume sexual function with TRT therapy?

    The post below comes from a castrated male on this site: http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic234.html
    Yes, im a castrate male on TRT, so I know these issues 1st hand. All desire and drive is lost if i stop hormone replacement therapy, but i function still, just cant reach oragasam very well, and it dosnt seem important. When im on TRT i am normal. (Emphasis mine.)




    But how long can you SAFELY continue using DAA?
    Men who NEED TRT, need it for the rest of their lives.

  8. Agreed, forgot about DHEA, it is a viable option and way affordable. DAA didnt work for me, Im sticking with Creatine, whey and glutamine. I think you understand where Im coming from, OTC is bad enough. What do think is a good AI? What do you think about pulsing a test patch or gel? Would that minimize endogenous shut-down? If Im not already shut-down that is.

  9. Ive heard they are loer than the levels prior to pinning, but thats if you dont use HCG or anything.

  10. Fair enough, but I was actually thinkin of 4 to 6 weeks on DAA inside of 8 weeks on and a long torm commitment to DHEA. Hes only forty eight. That might be enought to jump start hi testicles for a good while,considering that his body might not strive for equilibrium that much because it doesnt neccesarily whant low test. It would be worth a try IMO.
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  11. Dhea was the first "designer" available. Low dose cycles are helpful, after awhile there is suppresion and estrogen elevation, but in terms of muscle tone and overall enhancement its a great supplement.

  12. For low energy and fogginess, lack of concentration, getting fat around the midsection, I am taking 5 grams of NP bulk ALCAR, plus DAA, plus Triazole.
    I also love love loved Dermacrine (equivalent of 100 mgs of Test per week) but it is discontinued. Oral DHEA is useless. I'd love a good bio available DHEA source but don't know one.

    I also would love a good source of Test cyp but hear about all the bunk and tainted sources and this makes me Leary.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    For low energy and fogginess, lack of concentration, getting fat around the midsection, I am taking 5 grams of NP bulk ALCAR, plus DAA, plus Triazole.
    I also love love loved Dermacrine (equivalent of 100 mgs of Test per week) but it is discontinued. Oral DHEA is useless. I'd love a good bio available DHEA source but don't know one.

    I also would love a good source of Test cyp but hear about all the bunk and tainted sources and this makes me Leary.
    Yeah gotta have ALCAR, but thats a high dose, you can cut back by adding RLA, agreed about oral Dhea, in general but LEF has a sublingual tablet that works well its the best quality available, they are the company that brought it to market decades ago...

  14. I turn 60 next week and have been on Androderm patch 5mg/day for a bit over 6 months now. A world of difference. Was diagnosed with primary testicular failure so bumping up LH was useless. Tried all the test boosters and DAA and no positive results.

    Reading some of the previous posts I get the impression that some people are confusing HRT or TRT or supplementation with juicing for muscle gain. That's not what we are primarily on this for. Getting my test levels back to the mid-500's was what I needed to just stay awake in the afternoon.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by SkyWeasal View Post
    Reading some of the previous posts I get the impression that some people are confusing HRT or TRT or supplementation with juicing for muscle gain. That's not what we are primarily on this for. Getting my test levels back to the mid-500's was what I needed to just stay awake in the afternoon.
    Amen. I've been working out for 35 years and on TRT for at least 11. My strength has not increased by 1 pound on any lift since being on TRT dose.
  

  
 

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