PCT for a 45 Yr Old?
- 09-12-2010, 01:32 PM
PCT for a 45 Yr Old?
Did some epistane, longer than I should have (7 weeks). Thinking about PCT:
Week 1-2: Toremifine 60 mg/Tamox 20 mg daily
L-Carnitine-Taurate: 1000 mg daily
Week 3-4: Toremifine 30 mg/Tamox 10 mg daily
DAA and/or Tongkat Ali in effective dose levels
Week 4-6: Testofen 600 mg daily
DAA and /or Tongkat Ali as above
DHEA: 50-100 mg daily
Either an OTC anti-estrogen (small amounts of ATD/Resveratrol/DIM, etc) or small amounts of Toremifine/Tamox combo still
Week 6-12: Cycle various agents (carnitines, DHEA, OTC anti-Est, etc) - maybe something like T-bol or equivalent
- 09-13-2010, 12:08 AM
well you made two mistakes then. 1)you went longer than you should have and since you are speaking past tense ill assume the cycle is over which leads to 2)you didnt have your pct planned. you sound more like a 20 year old than a 45 year old. as for pct an expert will help you out as i never had to pct because i didnt do my first cycle until after i was put on trt so my pct is 200mg of test cyp. at a minimum i will offer this. im guessing you have the tore on hand so start using it. 60mg is not enough. minimum 90 but ive seen some guys start at 120 for a few days thenback down to 90. good luck
- 09-13-2010, 03:56 PM
Agreed that PCT should be planned before starting the cycle. That being said, I have never personally used or needed a SERM for PCT. My first PH cycle was 6 weeks of Epistane, which I ran straight through (no pulse). I shut down pretty hard, and I have only used pulses since then. My PCT consisted of Tribulus, milk thistle, and ZMA. I still felt shut down after 4 weeks, so I tried Gaspari Nolvadex XT, which atually did the trick for me. Not giving advice here - just letting you know what worked for me after an Epistance cycle. I personally did not like Epi, even though it works for many. I really liked P-Mag the best so far, but still experimenting.
09-13-2010, 05:52 PM
true I did go longer than needed especially for what I was doing. My PCT was planned, I was hoping for some more elaborate feedback as in maybe ALCAR is better than Carnitine-Tartrate because it upregulates NGF in the HPTA and as such is more beneficial during PCT, etc...I'm on day 5 already and I feel even better than when I was on the Epi. Stronger and better libido.
09-13-2010, 06:08 PM
Wasn't sure if you already had the Toremifine in hand, but assumed that you probably did. I forgot that I also used Formestane at the end of my cycle, but it didn't seem to do much for me. I still believe in just using an herbal test booster for PCT. Let me know what works for you - I'm all about OTC PCT.
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