There are a lot of good herbal products out there today and by combining them you can get very good ...even great gains from them. Check my current log in my signature if your so inclined for the current stack. It's all about synergy. I did the orignal halodrol and will say this .. for me 6 Prime ED > 50 mg Halodrol ED. I know some of the other mentioned products are stronger but I haven't done those.
At this stage I think I will stay herbal as I am getting everything I need from them and more... and I never have to worry about PCT... and my general health is better than it has ever been... my libido ... awsome.
I have run natural supps & I have found them highly exaggerated in their claims and their results.
Dreamweaver & I have had our difference in opinions regarding alot of these supps which did nothing but burn a whole in my wallet.
Dreamweaver....if those are your stats and that is you in your avatar then my hat is off to you my friend....very impressive. obviously you are doing something right and natural supps are working for you!
As for myself, I have run Epistane, Dermacrine and am now running 1-T. All three are excellent and nothing to be feared, even the PCT, IMO.
Also have a bottle of H-roid I am looking forward to run later this year. H-drol also is highly regarded and I am looking forward to running in the future.
People on this forum are very knowledgable and helpfull so ask away. For me, the results & the great feeling of being ON have been worth it.
Lucky