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brundel is recommending 1 pump, 3 times a day. But if that isn't feasible, then 1.5 pumps 2 times a deal will do.I have a bottle of Exotherm on the way! : ) what is the halflife? can I take all 3 pumps in the morning and im good or 1,5 pump morning 1,5 pump before bed?
Is there an actual way to measure what "1.5 pumps" are? I would think 2 pumps/1 pump might be simplest for people to understand.brundel is recommending 1 pump, 3 times a day. But if that isn't feasible, then 1.5 pumps 2 times a deal will do.
I don't think 3 pumps once a day will be efficient because of the half life.
That's what I'm going with.Is there an actual way to measure what "1.5 pumps" are? I would think 2 pumps/1 pump might be simplest for people to understand.
That would work just fine. If you're really concerned you could get a metered liquid syringe and measure that way. If I remember correctly these are the same pumps as The Formeron bottles and dispense 1.5 ml per full pump. brundel please confirm or correct me if I'm wrong.That's what I'm going with.
Nice, thank you.That would work just fine. If you're really concerned you could get a lettered liquid syringe and measure that way. If I remember correctly these are the same pumps as The Formeron bottles and dispense 1.5 ml per full pump. brundel please confirm or correct me if I'm wrong.
Is one pump suppose to be 1.5ml?That would work just fine. If you're really concerned you could get a metered liquid syringe and measure that way. If I remember correctly these are the same pumps as The Formeron bottles and dispense 1.5 ml per full pump. brundel please confirm or correct me if I'm wrong.
It should be. Its the same as FormeronIs one pump suppose to be 1.5ml?
There is some evidence than Cirsium can spot reduce=I'm seriously considering this as an addition to my precomp stack. Even at single digits I have stubborn lower back an leg fat
Oh cool do you have any feedback from them my show is a national qualifier so any edge I can getActually no. A couple of others used it during contest prep.
Great will be ordering next paydayYes both wont stop bugging me for more. Always a good sign.
Exotherm works exceptionally well....especially when your in contest prep mode. Non stimulant shred.
Never noticed any staining.Has anyone reported clothing staining from the chrysin?
ddfox ?
Thanks that was my only hesitationNever noticed any staining.
I feel you. Just read they have new software and its creating some issues :/My exotherm is out for delivery in a town 50 miles northwest of me. Good ol usps
3pumps is 4.5ml, 150% of the suggested dosage. Just making sure you are awareJust got my 4 bottles in. Couldn't wait. Put on 2 pumps, will do a 3rd tonight. Will try to do 1 pump 3X/day from here on out...may have to go 2/1 though...
Thanks man, but it says on the bottle 1 pump 3X per day, not 1 ml - so 4.5 ml is the suggested dose I believe?3pumps is 4.5ml, 150% of the suggested dosage. Just making sure you are aware
That is normal and what most of us experienced. There is a slight temperature elevation and if I applied, then went and took the dog on a walk or something, I was sweating like I just ran 10 miles. It goes away though and you do not spend your day sweating.Also, I have to say, I feel like the surface temperature of my skin is a bit warm, but that is hard to tell in the summer heat...I turned on my AC and I really am still warm though. I also noticed a very slight burning in my nose which I thought was funny, about 45 minutes - 1 hour or so after applying. Nothing bad at all, and may not even be related....maybe just in my head or something in the air....
Cool...glad to hear it is common. I wasn't worried, if it is thermogenic, I would expect that as a possible experience. I will probably have my first workout with the stuff tomorrow....will see if I drench myself. At least I'll be losing water weight hahaThat is normal and what most of us experienced. There is a slight temperature elevation and if I applied, then went and took the dog on a walk or something, I was sweating like I just ran 10 miles. It goes away though and you do not spend your day sweating.
OH wow i know what I did. I was basing the calculations off of 3ml. 120ml/4.5 = ~27 which is exactly what it's meant to be. Must've gotten ml and pumps mixed up in my head. Total poo brain momentThanks man, but it says on the bottle 1 pump 3X per day, not 1 ml - so 4.5 ml is the suggested dose I believe?
^^^3pic_beast nailed it. That's a great way to do it.I've always just taken my one daily shower for my first application then just clean each application area with a clean wet rag and dry thoroughly with a towel. I make sure if I'm doing multiple applications to do them in different spots. Say first application right shoulder/neck/upper chest area, second application left shoulder/neck/ upper chest area and third application traps. Cleaning each site and drying prior to applying.
like forearm area? its actually recommended if skin is thin! after shower doesn't really matter when you work out, most people do it right away although if you shower immediately after the gym, that's fine toothanks! I got my bottle today so starting tomorrow : ) what about inner arms? my skin is very thin there and veins are poppin pretty good.
Before or after gym?
I believe sweating is supposed to help with absorption so I'd say before workoutthanks! I got my bottle today so starting tomorrow : ) what about inner arms? my skin is very thin there and veins are poppin pretty good.
Before or after gym?
little late on this and I know you got most your answers but that's going to be a fun cycle you got there, for over all well being I would like to comment and say I would do the Viron 3x daily for 5 days, then on 2 days I drop it to one in morning for 2 days, then Follidrone I was doing 2 caps PWO with 1 Viron and feeling great, but im trying a new thing 4x daily to keep blood levels stable, but I know its costly so I don't expect you totry that, but I would also before doing that do 1 in AM and 2 PWO and I felt like it helped more too with waking me up and motivating me in morning, I would do thisOK ordered now at TGB stack of Exotherm + Follidrone + Viron.
How do you suggest using this stack if main goal is not bodybuilding but general overall well being for a guy in mid 30s?
I've taken Viron + Follidrone + Formeron before so most effects should be similar.
My current plan would be take:
- Viron 1 cap upon waking up (5 days on/2 days off OR 2 days on/1 day off/2 days on/2 days off),
- Follidrone 1 cap on non workout day or 2 caps 30min-1h before workout (which would be 10min jogging and 1x-2x/week light weight lifting mainly squats & deadlifts),
- Exotherm would try 1 pump in the morning then upgrade to 1am/1pm then try 2am/1pm.
brundel - when do you recommend taking Exotherm - before exercise (does sweating cause Exotherm to be less effective) or after or not make a difference as long as it's same time every day?
Hell yea! 4 bottles?! I'm Jealous!!Just got my 4 bottles in. Couldn't wait. Put on 2 pumps, will do a 3rd tonight. Will try to do 1 pump 3X/day from here on out...may have to go 2/1 though...
it definitely wouldn't hurt man, has a few other good ingredients that may help with everything!Would stacking alphamine be a good addition to this? And does this require a pct?
Of course you can.Would stacking alphamine be a good addition to this? And does this require a pct?
Straight up man. I will maybe run 2 bottles back to back for 52 days at 3 pumps a day, take a break and do it again, but knowing me I may experiment with 4 pumps/day which means I will modify this and wind up running all 4 bottles for maybe up to 12 weeks....I don't know yet. We'll see how it plays out. I expect 3 pumps is going to be effective enough that I may be happy....but this has been my first full day so far...won't know for a week or so.Hell yea! 4 bottles?! I'm Jealous!!
Approximately 26-27 days.Just received EXOTHERM today. How long will one bottle last at 3 pumps a day?
Just keep an eye out for low estrogen signs. Pair it it with a test booster like Viron if you can.Anybody thinking about combining Exo with Letrone? Thinking maybe one am cap and a pump or 2 later on in the day..
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