Sustanon, Tren e cutting cycle
- 10-03-2018, 07:01 PM
Sustanon, Tren e cutting cycle
Hello everyone, I would like to start a cycle with a strong hypocaloric (500/600 kcal under the need).
I had thought:
week 1 - 12: sustanon 300mg / week
week 1 - 10 tren and 600mg / week
week 1 - 10 masteron 400mg / week
week 1- 16 Cardarine 20mg / day.
PCT 13 - 16 ???
What do you think about it ? Could you recommend a good pct ??
- 10-05-2018, 07:24 AM
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10-05-2018, 08:48 AM
Meanwhile, thanks for the reply. I thought cardarina during the cycle and also in pct..pensi is useless ?? Better only in pct?
10-05-2018, 09:52 AM
10-05-2018, 10:06 AM
Good luck taking 600mg of tren stacked with other androgens.. I can almost guarantee you will regret this.
When you have a cutting cycle it makes even less sense to take that much gear and why masteron? It will at best sculpture you if you're low bodyfat but Its a pre contest prep, it won't stick to your body and if you for some reason believe it burns fat you're mistaken.
This is what I believe is gonna happen.. You undereat because you're cutting and with tren you want to eat that's kinda the point with it cause it takes food and doesn't store it as far or water. You will almost certainly have nightsweats at that dosage and people think its a joke but you'll literally wake up soaking wet every night almost to the extinct that you'll stain the sheets.. You get disappointed cause you expected more out of it because 600mg is a big dose for bulking and that's what you want it for. Chances are also that you'll get mentally destroyed during and after the cycle to a level that's not comparable to any steroid I've ever tried. I don't even get sides from steroids just tren.
So if this is your first tren cycle or worse your first cycle just don't do it.
If you're by any chance an average guy with an average body you build a foundation first.
Just take this as a warning because no person needs 600mg of tren. 400 is in my opinion the absolute max anyone should go on a first cycle but I actually don't go over 300 myself because att 400 I have night sweats.. Not worth it
10-05-2018, 01:49 PM
I just finished a cycle with 600 mg of sustanon and 300mg a week and 50 mg of proviron a day for 10 weeks. I'm actually planning that for January. That's why I took your advice. fortunately I did not have any trouble given by the tren
10-05-2018, 01:57 PM
10-05-2018, 02:15 PM
10-05-2018, 03:01 PM
Look of you don't grow on 300mg of tren nothing will make you grow. The thing is the diet and on tren you can eat more. Weight doesn't equal muscle and tren is pretty much only muscle so even if you gain 10lbs on tren and 15 on deca you'll end up looking better on tren cause it's more muscle and less fat.
Who knows maybe you're lucky but it's a huge gamble trust on that
10-05-2018, 05:30 PM
during my 300mg cycle of tren acetate, I lost fat, but got a good 3kg on the scale! But I thought I would increase to 600mg because the next cycle will be thirty-nine, and I've read that it's a little less potent than acetate. Tell me what you think
10-07-2018, 12:21 PM
10-07-2018, 12:38 PM
The longer you wait the healthier but I think at least 3 months after pct is good.
You need to eat on tren cause tren eats your food. I gained 20lbs on 400mg of tren and leaned out so for you adding 3kg is simply you doing it wrong. Eat much more..
10-07-2018, 03:42 PM
I added 3 kg but I lost so much fat mass. Do not you think it's a good result? anyway, then I have the 150mg / 1ml tren enerate, so do you think it's better 600mg per week or 450?
10-07-2018, 04:26 PM
3kg muscle is a ton but I'm not sure all is muscle. Anyways it should be a problem gaining 8kg on a cycle like that if you have used steroids very little and if you haven't added any crazy amount of muscle compared to an average person
10-07-2018, 04:47 PM
I only took 3 kg but with a low calorie diet of 2000kcal on 2500! Anyway thanks then for the advice. I will lower from 600 to 450!
10-08-2018, 02:58 AM
10-08-2018, 02:59 AM
10-09-2018, 09:50 AM
10-09-2018, 10:24 AM
Double the dose will not give double the muscle just double the sides. If anyone could grow so much by increasing gear, everyone would be on 1gr of test 1gr of tren 200mg anadrol etc..
Test should be lower than tren preferably just because it'll add sides from tren. The androgenic sides from tren are extreme so again..
2-400mg test, 3-400mg tren. Focus on the diet not the steroids.
10-09-2018, 10:28 AM
10-12-2018, 08:29 PM
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