Canít cut anymore?
- 08-08-2018, 08:27 PM
Canít cut anymore?
So I was wondering if it was possible to cut down to a certain weight and not have enough muscle mass to keep losing fat effectively. Iím seeing striations in my shoulders while working out, more vascular (seeing veins in biceps and delts for the first time) but my strength is dwindling away and Iíve remained at the same weight for weeks now.
I started my cut after a good bulk and was 183-185lbs give or take and Iím now 165-166lbs but the weight loss has ceased. Still have a little fat on the stomach, still a little bit of love handle stuff going on, a little chest fat, you get it. Eating at 1,500-2,000 calories a day depending on my workout intensity. Doing HIIT cardio everyday I train being 4-5 days out of the week. Iíve tried dropping calories even lower than this but canít do that and still feel good in any way. I can see a little bit of upper abs coming in which is encouraging but Iím losing my mind here. Do I just need more muscle mass?
- 08-08-2018, 08:30 PM
How tall are you? and whats your diet like? Im not a pro at cutting here though but will try and help
08-08-2018, 08:35 PM
Dude, your cals are too low. My advice (for what its worth) is reverse diet back to maintenance, hold steady for a couple months, then either decrease cals or increase workout vokume slowly.
08-08-2018, 08:36 PM
Good sources of carbs like white and brown rice, yams and potatoes, oatmeal and Ezekiel bread.
Proteins are egg whites or egg beaters/whites in the carton in a pinch, bison steak medallions, lean grass fed beef, chicken here and there, turkey sausage, etc. low fat higher carbs. Iím hypoglycemic (opposite of diabetes) so I need my carbs lol Iíve tried the keto **** and it was ok but the doctors donít want me doing it anymore.
08-08-2018, 08:39 PM
08-08-2018, 08:40 PM
08-08-2018, 08:40 PM
I might be with @BennyMagoo79 on this one. Calories seem a little low. I wouldnt be able function on those calories lol but im alot bigger than you are. Maybe upp calories for a bit then go back down. You said you do HIIT? What about regular weight training?
08-08-2018, 08:45 PM
08-08-2018, 08:53 PM
Maybe try switching up your training routine a bit? Fat loss can be tricky. Sometimes its as simple as doing something different in the gym. I always hit my compound movements hard and then high rep accessory work. I wouldnt go any lower on calories though if i was you
08-08-2018, 08:55 PM
08-08-2018, 09:01 PM
Thing is that Iím relatively strong for my size. 365lbs DL, 235-245lbs on bench, 225lbs squat for 2-4 reps, 20-30 reps with 35lbs dumbbells (unilateral) 65-80lbs on the curl bar for 15-20 reps depending on how worn out my arms are by the time I get to that exercise. Iím not the largest but Iím not a weak guy. I change up my routine every week or so, supersets and drop sets as well. Iíll toss up a photo as well for reference.
08-08-2018, 09:05 PM
These are semi recent I guess. You guys be the judge. Many people and my buddies that compete in bodybuilding all day I just need more mass now. I just feel like if Iím to cut further Iíd feel hellish and tired and would probably be 150 or so by the time my abs come through. Also Iíve been 135lbs and still no abs lmao but thatís before lifting.
08-08-2018, 10:04 PM
Honestly I'd add 200-300 calories a week until you start gaining a small amount of weight. I was in your position a month ago and I upped my cals and switched to eod crossfit workouts/strength workouts.
08-08-2018, 10:19 PM
08-09-2018, 03:18 AM
I agree with Benny, if you slowly increase your calories, say 5% every other week you should be able to gain weight just fine without getting fatter. Keep increasing your training volume as well.
This will push your maintenance calories up over time. The key point is to keep doing more work in the gym as calories increase and this will push your NEAT / metabolic rate up with it.
From my experience helping people that have previously lost a lot of weight, an IIFYM approach doesn't work so well. And my "IIFYM" I mean eating dumb **** like donuts and protein powder and thinking its OK because your macros and caloric intake for the day is fine. Get most of your calories from red meat and starches, then train as hard as you can and you'll do great
I am a carnivore (diet based exclusively on meat)- Here is my diet and training log
08-09-2018, 03:44 PM
Adding some lean mass to fill it out is the only way (short of surgery) that I think you’ll get lower abs to come through (if at all).
I’m in that boat myself btw, picture below is from a few weeks back after a hard cut. You can see even with the clear leanness upper body, arms, etc that skin at the lower part of the belly is a million miles away from being tighter.
Personally I’m aiming to add lean mass (if you were previously overweight fat regain is easier hence more importance to keep it lean) over a long spell to see if that can get me there as from personal experience I couldn’t cut more than this (also started losing strength etc) and you can see it’s not where you’d want to be....
Hope that helps bro
08-13-2018, 04:56 PM
I think you have some access skin rather then fat. Ive personally not been there myself but I think it can be a bit trickier to lean out because of that. Adding some muscle might fill out this nicely.. Keep working, you've lost a lot of weight already.. Try go high protein, medium carb and low fat. Like 200+ gr protein at your weight
08-13-2018, 04:57 PM
08-13-2018, 05:00 PM
08-22-2018, 07:07 PM
more protein and fats then trickle in the carbs. your body is probably in shock from the weight loss and trying to hold on now with whatever your calories are. start lifting heavy and see if you start to feel hungry afterwards that will be a good sign that you are back ! try to get sore from working out and then fill in protein and veggies afterwards, good luck !
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/262422-mst-ragnorok-elite.html Mst Ragnorok Elite log
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