- 08-01-2018, 05:59 PM
I am sorry I am late to this - but this was me too in a way. I was around 300 at one point. I got down to about 180 and then made a final, very hard push with lots of aerobic work and very low calories and got down to about 163-165. Then one morning I just woke up with a ravenous appetite. Actually, after having gone maybe even a couple years without a donut, every morning for about a week I was waking up craving donuts. Nothing would make it stop - it actually felt a little out of control. That's the power of leptin - enough exercise and enough caloric restriction and that leptin fall can hit hard.
Some things that will help this, IMO, are doing refeeds if you have not. Drop WAY back on your exercise level. When not doing a refeed swap the bulk of your calories to protein - I'm saying get 250-300 grams or more protein per day but keep your calories under 2000.
Large doses of Vitamin D.
This is some of the stuff I've learned from rebounding that I wish I had known right before I hit that point...
- 08-03-2018, 07:37 AM
08-03-2018, 11:38 AM
08-03-2018, 11:46 AM
08-03-2018, 04:03 PM
For instance - have you ever noticed how people who are naturally lean eat? I mean, the people who seem like they can eat ANYTHING and not gain weight?
There are typically some things they do:
1. They have a higher propensity to undertake physical activity - even if it's just chores around the house.
2. They snack less and tend to eat "less" - but it's usually that they eat a small amount of something and become satisfied in most instances.
3. They tend to eat more carbs than most people.
1 & 2 in particular tend to seem pretty obvious, but HOW is it that they do that and obese people can't seem to get off the couch or stop eating after 5 chips and devour the entire bag? Everyone thinks it is willpower, but I think there is something else at hand.
Here's are some theoretical questions I've been developing in my head:
1. Do you tan easily?
2. Do you use a lot of stimulants and/or have a high tolerance for stimulants (like caffeine)?
Also- keep in mind - I'm getting a little off track here; but it is related. I'm applying a lot of my own theories which are based on some research I've read but are yet untested.
08-03-2018, 04:11 PM
Just to support a little tiny bit of what I said above :
Junk food reduces Dopamine function (simplisticly)
Reduced dopamine function in obesity (simplistically) makes you lazy:
08-03-2018, 06:02 PM
08-03-2018, 06:04 PM
I am a carnivore (diet based exclusively on meat)- Here is my diet and training log
08-03-2018, 06:28 PM
Also, keep in mind that I was 5'8'' and maybe over 300 pounds at one point in my life - for a loooong time. I grew up fat, lost it in junior high and kept it off for the most part through college. Then got into the real world, started working and all bets were off and I just gained like mad and didn't work out for over a decade.
I've noticed a few subtle things since increasing my Vit. D. One is that my appetite - very subtly - has been slightly reduced. Since forever I NEVER feel full. I can eat non-stop and not feel any consequences of it. This is changing and I do have this feeling pretty often (for me) now. It's not all the time, but it happens where I stop and don't WANT to keep eating. Which is a nice change.
The other thing I've noticed, unexpectedly, was that my stimulant tolerance fell pretty dramatically. One day I was drinking some coffee and I noticed I was buzzing. I have LITERALLY dropped a gram of caffeine powder and felt NOTHING from it. Could have slept after it. So getting a buzz from coffee was kind of new to me. Then I noticed that if I drank coffee too late in the day.....I didn't sleep so well. Since that time I've had a couple people on here who were willing to experiment with 20,000 iu of vitamin D and they've also reported some reduction in stim tolerance. Still....not a large sample size, but interesting.
Also, I am extremely white and have not had a tan in....well.....years and years. I don't get much sun with my office job and I'm constantly working - but this year my arms are tanning a little from being out a few times.
Now - 20,000 IU may bring me to that 40-60 range...who knows? But the large doses have definitely helped me in a few ways.
09-06-2018, 12:51 PM
Diet: Do you eat low carb? Perhaps it is time for a refeed?? Another suggestion (low carb or not) is to eat smaller portions thru out the day, essentially trying to keep your blood sugar (BS) at a comfortable level for sustained time frames.
BS: Regardless of the above, you should start checking your BS, multiple times a day - get a feel for what is normal upon waking, after fasted/unfasted workout, post meals, whenever you are hungry, etc. Get an idea of what is going on with your BS. You could be experiencing post meal hypoglycemia which often causes hunger. You might also find some other important things out by testing regularly and comparing to the norm.
Bad Tummy: No joke...ulcers, pre-ulcers and even just regular old excess acid can give horrific hunger pains (I have this problem). Try eating some TUMS when you feel like your starving, if that stops your hunger pain for a bit (30 mins to 2 hrs) move to step 2 and get a real acid controlling product (TUMS are short lived - actual helpfulness dependant on how much acid your tummy is overproducing, for me only 30 mins). There are many available OTC (prilosec, cimetidine, etc.) and many at home remedies online (people swear by vinegar but never helped me).
Hope this helps!!
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