Need to bring up my biggest weak point(arms) looking for advice

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by EMPIREMIND View Post
    Realize a few things... ct was a big guy, around 300 lbs, so was piana. Ct was lifitng huge poundages. Also piana had pmma implants.... so thereís that.

    Hereís one thing that will work for most... put ten pounds of lean muscle on and your arms should be about an inch bigger
    Not to mention that CT and Pianaís workouts have become more outlandish over the years. What they claim to do now/recently, if itís actually what they even do off camera at all, was not what they did to build their base and get to 99% of where theyíre at. Theyíre workouts designed to get attention, to get people who want to try them and then sell things to them.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by EMPIREMIND View Post
    Realize a few things... ct was a big guy, around 300 lbs, so was piana. Ct was lifitng huge poundages. Also piana had pmma implants.... so thereís that.

    Hereís one thing that will work for most... put ten pounds of lean muscle on and your arms should be about an inch bigger
    Lol, thanks, I didnít ďrealizeĒ that they were huge guys and lifted heavy weights, wow, such a eye opener 🙄
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Not to mention that CT and Piana’s workouts have become more outlandish over the years. What they claim to do now/recently, if it’s actually what they even do off camera at all, was not what they did to build their base and get to 99% of where they’re at. They’re workouts designed to get attention, to get people who want to try them and then sell things to them.
    I was never a fan of Piana so I really don’t know that much about him but I am a fan of CT and even though I know his workout videos are edited I still love his intensity.

    Also, congrats on being a successful web video detective, I’m glad you explained to us that videos like CT’s are designed to get attention and sell something, well done, it was impossible to know otherwise.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by BBiceps View Post
    I was never a fan of Piana so I really donít know that much about him but I am a fan of CT and even though I know his workout videos are edited I still love his intensity.

    Also, congrats on being a successful web video detective, Iím glad you explained to us that videos like CTís are designed to get attention and sell something, well done, it was impossible to know otherwise.
    My point is that the workouts he shows in his videos are almost unquestionably NOT the workouts he does every week, and are undoubtedly not what he did to build his base and get to where he is/was. So you can claim to like his workouts that he shows/sells today, but pointing to his success/physique and saying that these workouts are responsible for it is either ignorant or disingenuous...

  5. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    My point is that the workouts he shows in his videos are almost unquestionably NOT the workouts he does every week, and are undoubtedly not what he did to build his base and get to where he is/was. So you can claim to like his workouts that he shows/sells today, but pointing to his success/physique and saying that these workouts are responsible for it is either ignorant or disingenuous...
    I never said that, I said that CT used to do biceps every day to make them grow and that’s still the only thing I suggested OP to try, and that I used the same concept with luck.

    You’re not too fun at parties huh?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by BBiceps View Post
    I never said that, I said that CT used to do biceps every day to make them grow and thatís still the only thing I suggested OP to try, and that I used the same concept with luck.

    Youíre not too fun at parties huh?
    He set the curl record in 1992. Did he do biceps every day back then, or more recently since becoming a fitness celebrity selling programs and an image?

    Because he didnít do arms in this workout back in the day. After chest was CHEESEBURGERS, not biceps. And he was massive by this point, so he didnít get to that size doing arms every day. And I found his genuine funny and self-aware while still very confident attitude way more entertaining than the over the top intense drill Sargent persona heís adopted in the recent years.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qkX3K_o6YhA

  7. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    He set the curl record in 1992. Did he do biceps every day back then, or more recently since becoming a fitness celebrity selling programs and an image?

    Because he didn’t do arms in this workout back in the day. After chest was CHEESEBURGERS, not biceps. And he was massive by this point, so he didn’t get to that size doing arms every day. And I found his genuine funny and self-aware while still very confident attitude way more entertaining than the over the top intense drill Sargent persona he’s adopted in the recent years.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qkX3K_o6YhA
    Lol, you’re too funny, I don’t care what you think is entertaining.

    Here you go snowflake, arms everyday for the first 1.5 year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHiKDa4ip_Q&app=desktop
  8. Need to bring up my biggest weak point(arms) looking for advice


    Quote Originally Posted by BBiceps View Post
    Lol, youíre too funny, I donít care what you think is entertaining.

    Here you go snowflake, arms everyday for the first 1.5 year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHiKDa4ip_Q&app=desktop
    How am I a ďsnowflake?Ē Come up with some better insults man...

    And even if he did it for 1.5 years as a fresh new beginning lifter, he wasnít setting records or having ď22-inch armsĒ at that point, so you just further supported my claim that he didnít set the record, which you listed as the reason to do what he did, by training arms every day. He learned better and changed his routine on his way go setting the record and developing a great physique. And now he says/does whatever makes him stand out, whatever makes him looks and sound extreme and hardcore, and itís built him a very successful brand and image, so props to him.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    How am I a “snowflake?” Come up with some better insults man...

    And even if he did it for 1.5 years as a fresh new beginning lifter, he wasn’t setting records or having “22-inch arms” at that point, so you just further supported my claim that he didn’t set the record, which you listed as the reason to do what he did, by training arms every day. He learned better and changed his routine on his way go setting the record and developing a great physique. And now he says/does whatever makes him stand out, whatever makes him looks and sound extreme and hardcore, and it’s built him a very successful brand and image, so props to him.
    Sorry, it wasn’t meant to be a insult, I really thought you were a snowflake or some sensitive lesbian that feels the need to debate and argue about every unnecessary thing ever.

    If you what to make this thread about something totally different, why not make it about something that’s actually worth arguing about?! Because this seems really silly...

  10. I don't think CTF doing biceps every day is that outlandish or stupid sounding really. Plenty gymbros do curls and bench pretty much every day, and yeah they're usually idiots with terribly disproportionate physiques, but they do have big biceps and pecs.
    bang and your gains are gone

  11. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Too many people just go through the motions and throw around heavy weights, never really getting a full ROM, a good contraction and peak flex, or constant time under tension. Those are key for arms IMO.
    My thoughts exactly, I see this all the time at my gym.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by BBiceps View Post
    Lol, thanks, I didnít ďrealizeĒ that they were huge guys and lifted heavy weights, wow, such a eye opener 🙄
    Some people donít get it, thatís why I said they were big. CT was eating McDonaldís for years on end, high calorie diet and was a BIG dude, taking juice, and lifting heavy weights, his strict curl was around 200 pounds iirc. After years of being big lift that and cutting down, to the size people know him to be as of recent, his arms are huge, but thatís because they are the arms of 300+ pound man. Most guys want big arms and arenít even breaking 200lbs on the scale...

    And piana had a surgeon give him pmma implants in his arms. But hey if you believe doing 8 arm workouts a day drinking 8 protein shakes a day is going to grow your arms an inch, who am I to stop you....
    Chaos & Pain Rep
  13. Need to bring up my biggest weak point(arms) looking for advice


    Exactly. CT (recently?) claimed that he did biceps every workout for the first 1.5 years he trained or something, but we know that during his ďpeakĒ as a powerlifter benching 500 like itís a warmup that he wasnít doing it then, as evidenced by him ending his chest workout with cheeseburgers, not biceps. So either he realized that doing biceps every workout wasnít optimal sometime between 1.5 years and that point, or he just made it up to sell his new persona/programs/etc.

    Not to mention that 99.999999% of the bodybuilders and other people with the best arms in the history of mankind donít and HAVE NEVER done biceps every workout, and you can sort of see that an n=2 (if you count Piana and his augmentation) report isnít exactly compelling. Especially since these two arenít even the best of the best, so itís not like you can at least argue that what they did allowed them to be better than all the other best people.

  14. If you want bigger arms then keep it to supersets, and negatives. Whatever causes the most metabolic byproducts to come out of your muscle cells. Also, Biceps are nice but triceps will make your arm look bigger.

    TIME UNDER TENSION IS KEY.
    COMPOUND MOVEMENTS ARE BEST.

    For instance...one of my favorites and something you can do every other day with huge strength gains in a matter of weeks.

    Light dumbbell (I start at 50)
    10 dumbbell bench press
    10 dumbbell pressed together bench press
    10 second hold locked out
    All of those are a complex with no break in between. Should take 20-30 seconds.

    Repeat with ascending weight to near failure. THEN IMMEDIATLY...

    Max Reps Bench Press with original weight.

    Get creative and get swole.

  15. Finish your bicep workout with this crazy Curl finisher, grab 30-35 pound dumbbells and do these reps. 10-20-30-40-50-40-30-20-10, only take about 20 seconds of rest in between. Sh1t is Killerrr
  16. Need to bring up my biggest weak point(arms) looking for advice


    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmatt57 View Post
    Finish your bicep workout with this crazy Curl finisher, grab 30-35 pound dumbbells and do these reps. 10-20-30-40-50-40-30-20-10, only take about 20 seconds of rest in between. Sh1t is Killerrr
    If you can do 50 legit reps with 35lb dumbbells at the end of your workout after four other sets with only twenty seconds of rest between them, you should have insane biceps already. Am I missing something here?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    If you can do 50 legit reps with 35lb dumbbells at the end of your workout after four other sets with only twenty seconds of rest between them, you should have insane biceps already. Am I missing something here?
    You wonít be doing perfect form itís gonna have some swing, but let me tell you something itís still gonna feel f$cking insane.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Bigmatt57 View Post
    You wonít be doing perfect form itís gonna have some swing, but let me tell you something itís still gonna feel f$cking insane.
    If youíre doing anything that even resembles curls more than cleans after 20-30 reps you should have massive biceps already. Iím genuinely curious what your arms look like if you can do this.

  19. I think it’s pretty simple... regardless of your split. When you go and train, make sure your progressing, either more reps or more weight. Do this every workout. If you cannot you need to add more food or more rest between sessions. For hypertrophy stay in the 8-12 rep range for the most part. If you want to use guys like ct and piana as reference points another strategy could be adding more to your dose lol. Training is about progression. If you have more muscle you should be able to lift more weight, either in pounds or reps. Do this every session no fail and you will 100% have bigger arms. Pump workouts are great, definitely will help maintain and can add some size, but if you are looking to build new muscle you need progression in training food and recovery.
    Chaos & Pain Rep

  20. Quote Originally Posted by EMPIREMIND View Post
    Some people don’t get it, that’s why I said they were big. CT was eating McDonald’s for years on end, high calorie diet and was a BIG dude, taking juice, and lifting heavy weights, his strict curl was around 200 pounds iirc. After years of being big lift that and cutting down, to the size people know him to be as of recent, his arms are huge, but that’s because they are the arms of 300+ pound man. Most guys want big arms and aren’t even breaking 200lbs on the scale...

    And piana had a surgeon give him pmma implants in his arms. But hey if you believe doing 8 arm workouts a day drinking 8 protein shakes a day is going to grow your arms an inch, who am I to stop you....
    I can't believe you are even still giving BBiceps any time of day. What a dick.

  21. BFR bicep/tricep supersets.

    Shoulder isolation training.

    Forearm Day.
    Do as I say, not as I do.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I can't believe you are even still giving BBiceps any time of day. What a dick.
    Lol I got caught up man....
    Chaos & Pain Rep
  23. Need to bring up my biggest weak point(arms) looking for advice


    Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    If youíre doing anything that even resembles curls more than cleans after 20-30 reps you should have massive biceps already. Iím genuinely curious what your arms look like if you can do this.
    I can do 35 for 25 in good form and my arms look like ****. 17Ē but total ****.
    Do as I say, not as I do.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Old Witch View Post
    I can do 35 for 25 in good form and my arms look like ****. 17Ē but total ****.
    Bad biceps genes? I swear my genetics took all my calf muscles and threw them on top of my biceps.

    I have seen some massive elite pros with no bicep peaks, so I guess this is a thing that can happen.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    Bad biceps genes? I swear my genetics took all my calf muscles and threw them on top of my biceps.

    I have seen some massive elite pros with no bicep peaks, so I guess this is a thing that can happen.
    I think my curl just came back up kind of fast, or my endurance is rather high. My initial strength sucks, especially on curls. Iím 6í3Ē so the mechanics of how I can lift are a bit different. Iíve never been heavy on curls, always high reps. Otherwise my elbows will just ache for days and days.
    Do as I say, not as I do.
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