[Outofbody]

Yeah me too, I consider squats a driver of overall mass and strength not so much for complete leg development.

Bingo. The truth.

[muscleupcrohn]

because of all the growth hormone in them

[Outofbody]

lol

[GrizzleB]

My right knee has been crazy sore and puffy since I squatted a few days ago. I'm considering just going to the gym and doing lots of machine work for legs for the next month or at least alternating weeks. I've always had this big bump on my right knee and It feels like there's fluid on it the next few days after squats.

[Old Witch]

This guy did heavy squats, such a gut...

And you’re somehow going to be able to do that too, right? You and every Tom dick and harry?

Get real, guy. You don’t have perfect form. You’ll grow your waist and ass. And so will Tom dick and harry.

[Old Witch]

RDL Hack squats, front squats, sissy squats, and sissy hack squats.

That’s how you grow GREAT legs.

[Old Witch]

“Vince taught that “bent-over squats” for most are not a true quad developer. He found that students would cheat and leverage themselves in the movement to produce a great butt, hip, and stomach expander.

However, Vince did acknowledge that in a few cases involving what he called “genetic superiors,” bent-over squats could be used. These individuals would have very small hips and short femurs that allowed them to squat in a fashion that allowed for quad development without overemphasizing the glutes.

Vince used Sergio Oliva as a good example of one who could get away with bent-over squats, but he felt most were not built to perform squats as a true quad developer.”

Unless you’re pretty convinced of your genetic superiority, I’d avoid back squats.

[kisaj]

“Vince taught that “bent-over squats” for most are not a true quad developer. He found that students would cheat and leverage themselves in the movement to produce a great butt, hip, and stomach expander.

However, Vince did acknowledge that in a few cases involving what he called “genetic superiors,” bent-over squats could be used. These individuals would have very small hips and short femurs that allowed them to squat in a fashion that allowed for quad development without overemphasizing the glutes.

Vince used Sergio Oliva as a good example of one who could get away with bent-over squats, but he felt most were not built to perform squats as a true quad developer.”

Unless you’re pretty convinced of your genetic superiority, I’d avoid back squats.

You are also the guy telling us that eating large meals builds a gut and visceral fat. Did you wake up and just decide that you were going to spew nonsense and poor information today? Might want to step away from the keyboard and go do something else.

[Old Witch]

You are also the guy telling us that eating large meals builds a gut and visceral fat. Did you wake up and just decide that you were going to spew nonsense and poor information today? Might want to step away from the keyboard and go do something else.

Eating large meals does do that. Are your logical reasoning functions not working? Ask a doctor: Hey doc is overeating going to expand my abdominal cavity and stretch out my stomach and small intestines? And he will say YES.

[Resolve10]

Giving me some good stuff to shake my head today.

So squats aren’t a good leg developer because people can’t do them right. So you are basically admitting they do work you just think people do them wrong.

Seriously am I not understanding what you are saying?

[Old Witch]

Giving me some good stuff to shake my head today.

So squats aren’t a good leg developer because people can’t do them right. So you are basically admitting they do work you just think people do them wrong.

Seriously am I not understanding what you are saying?

That’s exactly it. Squats aren’t a good leg developer because people can’t do them right. Exactly.

If you do them, you damn well better be doing them perfectly.

And I mean Gironda perfect.

[muscleupcrohn]

And you’re somehow going to be able to do that too, right? You and every Tom dick and harry?

Get real, guy. You don’t have perfect form. You’ll grow your waist and ass. And so will Tom dick and harry.

The majority of people should at least squat to build a base of strength. Once they have that base, they don’t need to squat, but I’d argue that building that whole body base of strength is vital to being successful later. Once you have that base, then you don’t need to squat, sure.

You provide ONE guy who said not to squat. I showed you someone else who did. And plenty of bodybuilders recommend squatting. Essentially EVERY golden era bodybuilder squatted, and they had small waists and killer vacuums. Arnold squatted. Zane squatted. Haney squatted.

You do you, but there is no absolute correct answer here. Squat or down squat. There’s arguments for both. But don’t pretend that squatting will make you have a big waist. I know plenty of guys with wasp-like waists who squat plenty.

[Old Witch]

You can’t train yourself into a waspish waist. That’s genetic. If you have that, squat away.

[Resolve10]

That’s exactly it. Squats aren’t a good leg developer because people can’t do them right. Exactly.

If you do them, you damn well better be doing them perfectly.

And I mean Gironda perfect.

This literally makes no sense.

Don’t do them because they don’t work. Oh wait they do if you do them perfect. But you can’t do them perfect.

Do you understand how that makes no sense.

You literally listed front squats as an option too. If you can front squat you can perform a back squat with the proper form as well.

Yes people can build with squats. People can improve their form with them. It’s not going to just automatically give you a big waist. There’s an innumerable amount of people who go against that.

[muscleupcrohn]

You can’t train yourself into a waspish waist. That’s genetic. If you have that, squat away.

My point is that squatting didn’t ruin their waists. So you’re saying that it’ll expand normal people’s waists but not people’s waists who have thin waists? Because their waists didn’t get ANY worse from squatting, so it’s not like they went from tiny waist to small waist, they kept tiny waists while squatting.

[tyga tyga]

That’s weird, I squat 2-3x a week.. and have big quads with a 29” waist.

More than welcome to go look at my log

[muscleupcrohn]

That’s weird, I squat 2-3x a week.. and have big quads with a 29” waist.

More than welcome to go look at my log

So without squats you would have had a 27” waist.

/sarcasm

[tyga tyga]

So without squats you would have had a 27” waist.

/sarcasm

You just fed the bro ammo lol

Waiting for.. “yeah he probably would have because all that growth hormone went to his waist”

*facepalm*

[jrock645]

Ive never heard if the guy before but id be very happy with his physique.

[muscleupcrohn]

You just fed the bro ammo lol

Waiting for.. “yeah he probably would have because all that growth hormone went to his waist”

*facepalm*

Pretty much all the bodybuilders with the best waists and vacuum poses ALL squatted.

[Godstrength]

This thread is ridiculous... Of course squats help build bigger legs. Do you need them to grow? No but it aint going to hurt if youre trying to build them. They're also great for your ass and core. There's a reason why the squat is one of the big 3 lifts.

Big guts from squatting
Now thats some funny shyt

[Old Witch]

My point is that squatting didn’t ruin their waists. So you’re saying that it’ll expand normal people’s waists but not people’s waists who have thin waists? Because their waists didn’t get ANY worse from squatting, so it’s not like they went from tiny waist to small waist, they kept tiny waists while squatting.

I didn’t say it, Vince Gironda said it and I’m inclined to agree wholeheartedly. Y’all are forgetting that part. This isn’t just something I cooked up. Hahahaha

[Old Witch]

This thread is ridiculous... Of course squats help build bigger legs. Do you need them to grow? No but it aint going to hurt if youre trying to build them. They're also great for your ass and core. There's a reason why the squat is one of the big 3 lifts.

Big guts from squatting
Now thats some funny shyt

Not big gut, big ass and core. Wide waist, bulky look.

[Old Witch]

Ive never heard if the guy before but id be very happy with his physique.

You’ve never heard of Vince Gironda? He’s a legend. The Iron Guru. Hahahaha

[jrock645]

You’ve never heard of Vince Gironda? He’s a legend. The Iron Guru. Hahahaha

Maybe i have and just cant remember.