Okay, just for the record, what is the BEST libido enhancing/recovering stack?

[Matt Skiba]

I'm talking about long-term, so lets exclude Aspire36.

Right now I'm taking double dose paravol, Reset AD, siberian ginseng, ginko biloba, fish oil, and melatonin and x-dream/gabob at night.

I am considering adding:

Powerfull
IGF-2
RPM
Activate Xtreme
Possibly Alpha Drive XL
And possibly post-cycle support

I don't exactly know if any of you guys are good at this sort of thing, but here is a hormonal bloodwork of mine from about a month or so ago, I seem to be somewhat hormonally damaged. I posted this in a earlier thread sometime ago. I think in a month or so I will get another blood assay done to see how I'm doing.


T-3 Total 143.0 ng/dL (80.0 - 178.0)
TPSA (PSA) 0.4 ng/mL (0.0 - 4.0)
TSH 2.55 ulU/ml (0.33 - 5.73)
FT4 1.37 ng/mL (0.77 - 1.61)
T4 7.7 ug/dL (0.5 - 24.0)
Testosterone, Total 529.8 ng/dL (280.0 - 1100.0)
SHBG 27.0 nmol/L (11.0 - 80.0)
DHT 583.0 pg/mL (36.0 - 573.0)
ACTH 5.0 pg/mL (No reference range provided) I've been told this is low and an internet source proves this
LH 5.2 mlU/mL (1.1 - 7.0)
FSH 1.6 mlU/mL (1.7 - 12.0)
Prolactin 6.6 ng/mL (1.8 - 19.5)
Progesterone 1.7 ng/mL (0.1 - 0.6)
Cortisol 14.8 mcg/mL (3.0 - 23.0)
Estradiol 32.0 pg/mL (25.0 - 500.0) or (5.37 - 65.9)
DHEA 318.8 mcg/dL (35.0 - 430.0)

Age: 20
Height: 6'0
Weight: 150 pounds

I seem to be making a good amount of progress with what I'm taking so far over a week, but still not fully there, something seems to be missing, not only that but I've been in a sexually dysfunctional state for a few months now, so maybe there is some psychological aspect to this.

I will also be refraining from touching myself or looking at any porn, as well as doing my best to not obsess about my situation.

I am really just aiming to make my libido skyrocket to superhuman levels, because I'm sure if I'm physically horny enough, it will overcome the psychological effects. I don't want to overkill or OD myself on any of this crap though, I don't want to do more damage than healing. Really in the end I just wanna feel like a normal 20 year old with a normal sex life.

 

[BigCasino]

Is this a naturally occurring period of decline, or did you run a cycle of something you shouldn't have...?

PS - if you get no improvement from the above stack, I'd hit up an endocrinologist

 

[nycste]

ur 6ft and 150lbs. at 20ys old...

unless your an ultramarathon person your a twig and need to get some more meat on your bones christ i was that weight at your height in 8th grade yikes.

 

[scrappydog]

were you on reset AD when you got that test done?
At 20 your sex drive should be high unless you're coming off AAS or 'pro-hormones'. Maybe you should take a break from all your supps and see how that goes.

 

[slow-mun]

were you on reset AD when you got that test done?
At 20 your sex drive should be high unless you're coming off anabolic steroids or 'pro-hormones'. Maybe you should take a break from all your supps and see how that goes.

I think this is the best advise you'll get if you have conducted AAS cycles. If not, then you would be better off using one or two products and not several for the sake of natural testosterone boosting.

 

[Big BAMA]

6ft 150lbs, You need some weight.
As high as your DHT is, Is your hair falling out?
Your test is kinda low for a twenty year old, Have you taken anything besides the supp's listed in the past?

 

[slow-mun]

6ft 150lbs, You need some weight.
As high as your DHT is, Is your hair falling out?
Your test is kinda low for a twenty year old, Have you taken anything besides the supp's listed in the past?

That's what I'm thinking..........These look like blood tests immediately following a PCT of an AAS cycle of some sort. Maybe a prohormone cycle.

 

[Eric Potratz]

Dermacrine Sustain for libido

Without knowing exactly what those sups are that you are taking (paravol, AD?), I hope non of them are pro-hormone based as that will keep your LH/FSH suppressed (and your T production)

Derma Sustain would be a good choice and would no doubtingly increase your sex drive and probably triple your FSH numbers.

-Pp

 

[Matt Skiba]

Actually no I haven't taken any anabolic steroids or pro-hormones, I was on the DHT inhibiting hair-loss drug propecia (finasteride) also known as proscar. Worst part of all this is that I haven't even lost enough hair to keep me from attracting any girls that I wouldn't have otherwise, most people would still consider me to have a full head of hair, I just don't think I can pull off the sleek spiked up look with hair gel as well as I used to.

I think normally most people don't get any side effects while on the drug, but a few people do, and an even fewer number of people get sexual side effects that don't go away after stopping the drug. They end up with a case of hypo-gonadism that is similar to what happens to people using steroids. I guess that the inhibition of DHT causes more testosterone to be produced, thus messing up the endocrine system. Kinda similar to how anti-estrogen products like 6-OXO may work. Also the 5-alpha reductase enzyme works in converting progesterone to allopregnenolone, which aids in some GABA-related functions in the brain, which has effects on the hypothalamus I believe, which is the reason I'm taking reset-AD.

I don't have any tests showing how my hormones were before taking the drug, but if my DHT was like that it would make sense why my hair is sorta thinning at the front at this young of an age, also considering the fact that my dad or any of my uncles didn't start losing any hair until they were at least in their 30s. I guess another explanation could be that my DHT rebounded and overshot once I stopped taking the drug.

Main reason I came to this forum is that it's owned and run by Dr. John Crisler, one of the few doctors who recognize and treat my rare condition. I guess if I still don't have much success after a while I might as well make the trip from Chicago to Michigan to go see him.

As for my weight, I actually used to weigh 160 pounds in eighth grade haha, but this is mainly a secondary concern for me right now. Though I wonder if I gain weight and increase vascularity I could reduce or eliminate the hair loss aspect, maybe even fully reverse it with the help of the xandrox minoxidil formulation which also contains topical anti-DHT azelaic acid. I would definitley look into non-Rx methods to stop or even reverse hair loss, but this is also not a prime concern for me right now.

The spray seems interesting, especially the fact that I don't have to spray it on my genitals. Does it contain melanotan? And no none of the stuff I'm taking is pro-hormone based, I think that stuff is out of the question for me right now.

I've also quit smoking marijuana because it does kill fertility and has an FSH reducing aspect to it.

Also I guess this is needless to say but I would like to have a way for this to be all fixed without having myself be dependent on supplements or drugs, though I'm sure that it is possible.

 

[chim_chim]

The two best OTC products I've tried are Fenugreek (NOW brand caps) and Nutraplanet muira puama extract. The Nutra 50% Icariin is also good.

The first two are extremely cheap as well.

Cabergoline, aka Dostinex, is available as a research chem, and it can make a huge difference. It is the only dopamine agonist that doesn't make me irritable.