My new stack... please critique :)

[lbarber]

Hi, well, a member from the bodybuilding.com boards mentioned this forum to me, so I just thought I'd say hello to everyone! well, hello... lol anyways, baseball season is almost over for me, and I'll be a senior in high school this year (yay for that)! I have some goals I'd like to accomplish over the offseason-gain weight! As a pitcher, size matters, and at 5'10, 132, I'm not very intimidating, not to mention I'll never reach 85 plus at this weight. I can, how ever, throw around 80-due to my mechanics, and the condition I'm in.

Well, enough about that, anyways, here's what I'm planning on supplementing this year.

Age 17: I'll be working again in a little bit to pay for some of these.

Lifts:

Sumo Deads: 245x4, 245x3
Squat: 225x8 parallel, I now squat Atg, so it's no longer 225. I've been doing 205x5
Bench: don't bench.

Lactose Intolerant

Proteins:

Ergopharm Gf Pro Cherry-love this stuff by the way! My favorite protein so far...
Primaforce Substance WPI grape/chocolate malt-have
Xtreme formulations Ultra Peptide-have
Anabolic Innovations Fruit punch WPI-Any feed back on this!

Creatine: Man stack: Man clout/Man body octane

Antioxidant: DS vigor/scivation noxidant

Fish Oil: NOW super epa-have

Green Tea: Primaforce Lean green

Cissus Rx: love this stuff-helped me heal two groin pulls at the beginning of the baseball season, and increases my recovery time after I pitch. Customer for life!

Powerfull: Hmm, I'm 17, and have 2 bottles of this-purchased it when the combo sale was going on. I may try it out, or I may wait, but I do know what users have reported when stacking it with creatine.

NOW ginger root-have

BCAA: I've been using Grape Xtend and loving it, but anabolic innovations Excell sort of entices me. I just heard about this company, but from the feedback I've been hearing about them, they seem like a great company.

Excell tropical punch

Bulk Citruline Malate: Bulk Leucine

Controlled labs Blackhole: Still debating on this-waiting for more feed back on this supplement.

I haven't had cookies in a lonnnnng time, but I will be ordering
anabolic innovations cookie mix-hopefully these are good.

I enjoy eating clean, and have been eating this way for a while.
Umm, well, that's about it.

This and a good diet should produce good gains, so I'm quite excited for the upcoming off season.

I'll be doing a log of my training once baseball is over.

Also, Anabolic Innovations: do you offer sample packs on any of your Whey Protein Isolates? I would like to try the punch flavored one. If it tastes good, I'll probably buy a 10 lb tub of it, and mix a scoop of it with excell during my workouts. If not, no worries...

 

[Basso]

To be honest with you, you really don't need all that, especially at 17! Here is what I would do if I was 17 again.
Real Food Protienx1.5bw
Whey post w/o
Creatine (maybe)
Multi and Fish oils
Cissus (only as needed for joint pain)
The cookies are good BTW (I don't consider them a supp but a must)

Solid diet and W/O you'll grow, don't overuse supps now or you'll be less receptive to them when you'll need 'em later on in life!

jmho

 

[lbarber]

Hmm, well, this will kind of be my diet-food wise- once baseball is over, and I start my training.

Morning: 1 cup of oatmeal-sprinkle ground cinnamon on top
Shake: 10oz of lactate milk, 1 banana, 1 scoop cholote wpi, 2 tbsp of natural peanut butter. 2 fish oil

Meal 2: 6 oz chicken breast, 1/2-1 cup of fresh spinach, 1/2 cup oatmeal, ground cinnamon, 8-12 oz of milk. 1 tbsp of extra virgin olive oil, mega men Multi, ginger root

Meal 3: Same as Meal 2: 2 fish oil

Meal 4:1 scoop Cherry WPI, Bulk Leucine, 1/2 cup of oats, 8 oz of milk

Meal 5: Barilla Plus spaghetti, homemade pasta with ground beef, 1/2 scoop of cherry wpi, 1 tbsp of extra virgin olive oil. 2 fish oil, Multi, milk

Meal 6: 1 scoop xtreme formulations ultra peptide, 2 tbsp of natural peanut butter, 8 oz of milk.

Diet is in progress, will see what happens when school starts up. I'll have mrp at school. Probably shakes to have in class. That's one of the reasons why I've chosen certain supplements-to help me out when I train. This is going to be the most important off season of my life, and I need to be able to put on as much weight as I can going into baseball. The only thing that prevents me from hitting upper 80's is weight, and that's something I need to fix over this next winter.

But yeah, I agree with you on the too many supplements part. I'll change some things, but I like cissus rx, especially as a pitcher. So that's sort of a staple for me now.

I hate tuna and cottage cheese, and there's no way I can eat that everyday. Because then, tuna could be a valuable option when school starts up, but there's no way I'm touching that stuff, now way! lol...

Basically here are the foods I primarily eat every 2-3 hours.

Oats
pasta
lactose free milk
Steak
Chicken Breast
Whole Wheat bread
Skippy Natural Penut Butter
Smart balance spread
Wholewheat english muffins
Whole Wheat French Toast
Extra Virgin olive oil
spinnach
low sodium v8 vegetable juice
and well, some other stuff. You probably know...
Like almonds and things like that to snack on during the day.

 

[Ziricote]

To be honest with you, you really don't need all that, especially at 17! Here is what I would do if I was 17 again.
Real Food Protienx1.5bw
Whey post w/o
Creatine (maybe)
Multi and Fish oils
Cissus (only as needed for joint pain)
The cookies are good BTW (I don't consider them a supp but a must)

Solid diet and W/O you'll grow, don't overuse supps now or you'll be less receptive to them when you'll need 'em later on in life!

jmho

Yup, the first thing I thought was "what is he going to do with all that whey?? :blink:"
Basically, keep it simple. Diet>Sleep>Workout>Supplement, how's your diet? How much do you sleep? What's your current workout regime?
btw, PowerFULL will probably not do much at your age, I could be wrong but that's what I think.

 

[lbarber]

Yeah, I know about the powerfull, that's why I may not use it this year, and maybe wait till I'm 18, but even then... I'll see what happens with that. From what I've read, it'll probably work better for older people. like 20 and over, or 30 and over. I may be wrong though. But I'll take your guys advice.

Haha, the whey, I like variety- I used to just use on whey, but being lactose intolerant, I didn't respond very well to that, so now I'm using wpi's. They last quite a while with me, so that's a plus.

I was using primaforce Substance wpi grape with xtend grape during my workouts. That's the only time I use the grape protein. Well, I'm sort of just been maintaing during baseball season.

I don't like to feel stiff on the mound, so I only workout about once a week, and I have a sprinting workout, too that I do.

But here's what I may be doing at the beginning of this off season. It depends though, I know a strength trainer online from one of my pitching forums who's coached, I think 4-5 first rounders from 04-05. So I may order a program from him. I'm not sure yet, but here's what I have so far.

I won't be throwing for a while after baseball. So a bodybuilding type routine won't effect me when I start throwing again. Since I'll be doing something different by that time.

Work in progress. I'm still tweaking it, and changing some things. I've had success with a 3 day split before, and after this I may go to a upper, lower, upper, lower type split, or try a routine I saw on tnation.

I sleep 6-8 hours each night.


Plan:

Monday:

Dumbbell Single Leg bench Squat: 4x6
Sumo Deads: 5x5
Barbell Rows: 3x6-8
Seating Rows: 3x8
Hammer Chins: 3x failure
Rotator Cuff

Tuesday: off

Wed:

Stability Ball Dumbbell press: 4x8
Dumbbell Incline press: 4x8
Chest dips: 4x10 bodyweight
Overhead Tricep Extensions: 3x8
Tricep Pulldowns: 3x8
Rotator Cuff

Thursday: off

Friday:

Back Squats: 5x5
Walking Lunges:3x8 (may switch it up and do crossover lunges, too).
Glute Ham raises: 3x8
Barbell Front Squats:3x8
Calf Machine
Rotator Cuff

Saturday: Off

Sunday:

Sprint Work on tread mill (maybe, I have to see how I respond to the workout first).

Monday: Repeat: Deadlift every other 2 weeks.

Single Leg Bench Squat: 4x6
Good Mornings:3x8
Barbell Rows: 3x6-8
Seating Rows: 3x8
Hammer Chins: 3xfailure
Push ups
Rotator cuff

I will also be utilizing Captains of Crush grippers into my routine. Mondays:wed:fridays:

Rotator Cuff: internal rotation: Thera bands:
External, 5lb weights.

Hammer chins put less stress on my shoulders, that's why I do them instead.

Should I add anything, or take out anything? I'm thinking of eventually doing a 4 day split, but for right now, I'd like to do something like this.

I can do weighted dips, but as a pitcher, they're not recommended. I may still do them though, since I didn't have any problems performing then last off season. Although, I only did them for about 3 weeks. But If I'm not throwing, and I'm careful with the amount of weight I add, I should be fine.

 

[CROWLER]

Hi, I just found out about your company on the anabolicminds.com forum, and
from my reading, you seem to be a well respected company. If you wouldn't
mind responding to my post, I'd appreciate it. If not, no worries... I'll
just ask here...

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/49704-my-new-stack-please-critique.html


As far as samples go, do you offer any? Excell seems like a great
product-I've been using grape Xtend, but tropical punch has recieved great
feeback, so I will be ordering that in the near future. Anyways, what I
would like to do is mix a scoop of Punch WPI in with my excell during my
workouts. But, I'm not excactly sure if I want to lay down 40 dollars on a
product I may not like. If you wouldn't mind sending me a sample package of
it containing 1 serving, I'd really appreciate it! But if you can't,
don't worry about it. My opinion of your company won't change, and I'll be
ordering my first products from you very shortly. Look forward to trying
excell and the cookie mix! Thank you,.
P.S. Do you ship to Alaska by any chance?

Hello Barber,

Thank you for your post and your interest in Excell.

We certainly DO ship to Alaska. We ship any where in the world and are very happy to do so. For Alaska we use priority Mail Flate Rate Boxes with delivery confirmation, this keeps the cost down very low even though it is traveling a great distance.

As far as a samples we actually offer samples right on the website, you choose 3 different items such as Excell Punch, Whey protein Peanut Butter/chocolate flavor and whey isolate Mocha. We send you those 3 plus a sample of our healthy cookie mix AND a discount code for 10% off. We also refund your $5 for the samples.

You can go here and look on the right hands side.

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CROWLER