What's In Your 5α-Hydroxy Laxogenin?

  1. What's In Your 5α-Hydroxy Laxogenin?


    Interested to hear the community's thoughts on the below.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...635?via%3Dihub
    http://www.ergo-log.com/what-you-sho...laxogenin.html

    Highlights
    •UHPLC-QToF method was developed for 12 dietary supplements claiming to contain 5α-hydroxy laxogenin.

    •5α-Hydroxy laxogenin is a synthetic derivative of a naturally occurring spirostane-type steroid, laxogenin.

    •Five of 12 supplements did not contain any 5α-hydroxy laxogenin.

    •In the remaining seven samples, spirostane-type synthetic artifacts were identified along with labeled, 5α-hydroxy laxogenin.

    •The findings signify a lack of quality controls in analyzed dietary supplements.
    Quote Originally Posted by ErgoLog


  2. Garbage
    XGELS + CEL M-TEST = BEST NATURAL MUSCLE BUILDER STACK
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  3. so do we need to cycle off our laxo sups now?


    iv always had good results from Massacre hopefully that wasnt one of the ones on the list


    did they post the names
  4. What's In Your 5α-Hydroxy Laxogenin?


    They didn’t post names that I saw but would be interesting to know.

    Unfortunately this is the current state of much of the supplement industry. Very few companies to trust and even then it’s a crap shoot .

    I know OL used to post labs back in the day with the ph and early products but not sure if they still do. For what it’s worth massacre “feels” like a well dosed laxo product and not a hidden steroid in there. Never had an issue with OL and use them for almost everything (pre, cycle support, old and new ph,etc).
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by TheIronAsylum View Post
    so do we need to cycle off our laxo sups now?


    iv always had good results from Massacre hopefully that wasnt one of the ones on the list


    did they post the names
    I would put money on that Massacare isn’t a solo laxogenin supplement
    XGELS + CEL M-TEST = BEST NATURAL MUSCLE BUILDER STACK
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  6. the problem is likely at the bulk level- **** purchased from alibaba- repackaged, sold with BS CoAs- the packager may likely never know what is exactly in the end product-nor will the consumer

  7. Quote Originally Posted by emiliozapata View Post
    the problem is likely at the bulk level- **** purchased from alibaba- repackaged, sold with BS CoAs- the packager may likely never know what is exactly in the end product-nor will the consumer
    Yeah, but the companies selling it in a formula/standalone should be running their own quality control checks

  8. WTF, kind of scared now regarding Wada Dopingtests. The stories with the tainted supplements might be true after all.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Yeah, but the companies selling it in a formula/standalone should be running their own quality control checks
    “Should” being the key word....which is unfortunately a limited practice
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  10. Looks like the same issue as ecdy/turk. Maybe it's an effective compound but most people may never get results from it because they have never actually taken an authentic product.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by THEstudent View Post
    Looks like the same issue as ecdy/turk. Maybe it's an effective compound but most people may never get results from it because they have never actually taken an authentic product.
    Kinda similar, but 5a Hydroxy Lax doesn’t appear to occur in nature therefore making it DSHEA non-compliant. Just pointing this out for the future legal implications it could have

  12. Quote Originally Posted by emiliozapata View Post
    the problem is likely at the bulk level- **** purchased from alibaba- repackaged, sold with BS CoAs- the packager may likely never know what is exactly in the end product-nor will the consumer
    Or like a ethical company test your raw materials like a company I know test every raw Before they start to use it .
    Knowledge is power- The power to do your part and make a difference.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    Or like a ethical company test your raw materials like a company I know test every raw Before they start to use it .
    Yes, or if it’s a contract manufacturer, they could provide the proof to the supplement company, then the supplement company could provide finished product proof

  14. Terrible

  15. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Yes, or if it’s a contract manufacturer, they could provide the proof to the supplement company, then the supplement company could provide finished product proof
    There in relies the problem sorta. Never trust the raw supplier and always get it tested. I know a company who had to reject some ginsing because event though the raw supplier had a coa it came out incorrect .
    Knowledge is power- The power to do your part and make a difference.
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