I am pretty sure most anti vaxxers would be doing that whether they thought there were supplements to help or not. They are not taking vaccines out of fear, bad information, and or ignorance. It is not a "Hey this supplement can help the immune system, so now there is no need to get vaccines for the kids... " It is more like "There is no way I am giving my kids vaccines, maybe I should look for a supplement for the immune system instead."
Which is pretty much my point. It's nothing really new, it's just them flexing again. I personally can't stand Gottlieb and not a fan of the FDA in general. They have a purpose, but I don't trust the agenda.
If you’re using the God-gave-man argument, I really hope you don’t wear glasses, take any medications, and especially don’t take any anabolics that would disrupt your God-given hormone balance.
I account for "the fall of man". Men degrade. Men can get sick, even healthy men. I just find the immune system to be effective compared to injecting the adjuvant aluminum IM, which is a heavy metal, and since it is combined with polysorbate 80, it is able to cross the blood brain barrier. I am okay taking chances getting the flu, measles, chicken pox, HRV, etc... I believe in the autonomy of man, man has the right for his own body, and his family what gets put inside them.
If the God-given immune system is sufficient, why is the God-given eye sight or God given hormone balance not also sufficient? Just say you think the risk/reward balance isn’t there for you; don’t give logically inconsistent theological arguments.
Generally speaking, the immune system is sufficient. Generally most do not have eye issues, at least younger people. Generally, younger people do not have hormone issues. Generally, even though men are defective, most won't need glasses, extra hormones, if they took care of themselves, at least not until they get older. But I get it, it would be more appropriate to give a risk/reward explanation, over a theological response.
If this isn't a joke I prefer you choose another thread to discuss your misguided thoughts. I want nothing to do with you in this thread.
Seriously GTFO with your lunacy. And don't send your kids to any of our kid's schools.
You see, look at your statements. Illogical, the way you react. You have not done your studying on the risk/reward. You haven't any idea of the vaccine injury compensation program that pays out millions of dollars every year. You have not a clue in how MILD most of the viruses on the vaccine schedule are. This is a business, to make money. You know our parents recieved literally a FEW vaccines, compared to the multiple times that millennials and younger recieved. If you want to vaccinate, and lay at the feet of CDC, go ahead, but don't castigate, and belittle people with differing points of view.
Riiiigght!
I’m wearing glasses right now.
You were right, I went about the discussion/debate, or how I feel the wrong way initially.
Yes? https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html this is what was recorded just for this year (so far)
Good points.
You are part of the problem at the moment. You don't see it because you are so caught up in it, but if you choose to not vaccinate your children, you are willfully and intentionally using them as a pawn in your game of politics, and that borders on child abuse in my eyes.
You meant to say roughly three people every day since the beginning of the year has contracted measles (again, so far)
This is a good point. Someone in 2019 America can not vaccinate their kid and it’s statistically likely that their kid won’t get something terrible, but the more people that adopt this mindset, the more likely the unvaccinated child is to catch something. If half the people thought this way, the logic and statistics wouldn’t hold up anymore; you’re currently relying on the fact that the vast majority of people are vaccinated. If this were not true, you couldn’t ride the statistical odds on the backs of other people.
Do you not realize that if somebody contracts measles naturally, rather than through the vaccine, that their immunity is more permanent, then a vaccine. That would create a better herd immunity.
Plenty of people Beyond a hundred years ago that lived over 70 years old.
Also, I lean more on the aluminum adjuvant issue, more so than the Mercury issue because more vaccines have aluminum as their adjuvant then they do have mercury. Many vaccines also have a DNA from aborted fetal cells, and those of us who are pro-life disagree with the method of obtaining those cells.
People have ridden the herd immunity for so long, they've never experienced life before vaccines and suddenly see no importance in them.
Tell that to the myriad of severely ill or dead children your plan would necessitate to get to that point...
Yes, but the odds of making it past a younger age were less.
Pretty sure more people have been harmed through the MMR vaccine than actually Contracting measles.
I hope you dont drink tap water or eat food. Both contain aluminum.
That’s not at all what I’m saying. I’m saying that you claimed letting measles run its course so people develop natural immunities to it would be preferable to vaccinating against it. The only reason less people are harmed from it is because they’re vaccinated against it. To build up the herd immunity you mentioned would inherently necessitate many, many people contracting it and either building a resistance to it or dying and being weeded out of the gene pool.
I have a reverse osmosis unit. And aluminum through food bases through the digestive system, rather than IM injection. But I'm done. I am for your right to vaccinate.
Look up the average life span of people in the 1800s. 30-50 was the average. It is now 80 in most places.
Some still enters the blood stream.
I understood what you were saying. Generally, measles is mild, like the chicken pox, which most of us contracted, and most survived.
Plumbing, the knowlege to wash hands with running water rather than sitting water. Proper waste disposal. Better travel, and housing.
I am all for opposing views. I enjoy debates, discussions.
You do know that one of the biggest improvements in water quality has been chlorination, right? A blanket fear of chemicals would, and does, make people afraid when they hear there’s chlorine in your drinking water, but it keeps much, much worse things out of it. So simply saying that you want to avoid chemicals isn’t inherently even a good idea.
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I try to not let politics affect my relationships with people, but the second I find out someone is against vaccinations I can't even stand to be near them anymore. If someone is going to just blatantly ignore facts, I want nothing to do with them. LolAm I an ******* because I feel reading this thread that now some of your other viewpoints suddenly make sense knowing you are an anti-vaxer?��*
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