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  1. Anavar only cycle


    Thoughts on this? I'm 20 almost 21. I have never ran any cycle before. I'm not looking for size gains really, if I can keep ALL my gains I've got now, at a single digit bodyfat percentage, I would be more than happy. Then going "natural" again for the future (not planning on doing steroids after this). I want something that does not surpress much. Something mild, fitting my needs. Thoughts? Keep it short and sweet, like 6 weeks. Or maybe just stay away from it and just do it the natural way? I know I'm gonna lose alot of size. But I'm thinking, if I do this anavar cycle, and come off, my achievements slowly but surely will fade away back or even more back than before?Name:  Screenshot_20190211-014708__01.jpeg
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  2. You are at the age of my son. Don't fugg with roids for the next 10 years.
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  3. Agree with HG. Wait until you cannot gain size or strength anymore.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by hairygrandpa View Post
    You are at the age of my son. Don't fugg with roids for the next 10 years.
    Ok. I will try not to! Appriciate the advice

  5. Weren't use just posting about MK-677 giving you anxiety? newsflash you aint natty brah.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by NoAddedHmones View Post
    Weren't use just posting about MK-677 giving you anxiety? newsflash you aint natty brah.
    Hmmm, I don't really consider MK-677 not making you natty. Even if someone or some wants to classify it as that, what I really ment is AAS kind of stuff, surpressive things.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by TheSuppGuy View Post
    Ok. I will try not to! Appriciate the advice
    Please do my man it is amazing what our bodies can do naturally at this age. trial and error is our friend and dont be afraid to fail, play around with nutrition and figure what works best for your body, the end game is progressive overload - getting stronger is the goal and dont always assume that means shoveling large amounts of food that could just make you fat gradually increase food if you find yourself not getting stronger or bigger (depending on your goals)

  8. Unless you got crazy genetics for it i wouldn't bother. You could always try a Sarm in a year or two as long as you proper pct it and get pre and post bloods done.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by TheSuppGuy View Post
    Hmmm, I don't really consider MK-677 not making you natty. Even if someone or some wants to classify it as that, what I really ment is AAS kind of stuff, surpressive things.
    MK-677 will and does suppress you.

    It is no different than AAS in that regard.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    MK-677 will and does suppress you.

    It is no different than AAS in that regard.
    What do you mean? I don't feel surpressed at all? What does it surpress?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by TheSuppGuy View Post
    Hmmm, I don't really consider MK-677 not making you natty. Even if someone or some wants to classify it as that, what I really ment is AAS kind of stuff, surpressive things.
    Hey MK-677 is a growth hormone secretagogue... This is definitely "enhanced" lifting.

    To avoid all BS and define Natty means you eat only food and at most use a vitamin, creatine... All AAS gear, prohormones, SARMS are all definitely enhanced lifting.

    And if you are 20 skip the roids. I am 38 and was once 20 and I waited the next 15+ years, learned to cycle but have now put myself on doctor monitored TRT. Why, well I supressed my own natural Testosterone too many times, now it doesn't recover.

    This is why @hairygrandpa says to wait, a few mistakes and you may wreck your own balls, not be able to have kids, etc. It's a real concern, not war on drugs exaggerated marketing... Even if you cycle perfectly, this can still happen as a side effect. Kind of like Russian roulette that way, first pull of the trigger might not get ya...

  12. I was for 47 years natty.

    My son is OP's age. After 1.5 years of training, I got him natty from a "spaghetti" to a "macaroni". Coaching nutrition and training.

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  13. Quote Originally Posted by TheSuppGuy View Post
    What do you mean? I don't feel surpressed at all? What does it surpress?

    I mean it suppresses natural testosterone production exactly the same way AAS do. At ultra low doses they don't (or so a lot of studies say)...but no one takes it at those ultra low doses.

    You don't necessarily feel suppression.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    I mean it suppresses natural testosterone production exactly the same way AAS do. At ultra low doses they don't (or so a lot of studies say)...but no one takes it at those ultra low doses.

    You don't necessarily feel suppression.
    I'm taking 30mg, is that surpressive?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    I mean it suppresses natural testosterone production exactly the same way AAS do. At ultra low doses they don't (or so a lot of studies say)...but no one takes it at those ultra low doses.

    You don't necessarily feel suppression.
    I think you are confusing it with SARMS. OP takes mk-677, a hgh secretagogue. As far I know, its not suppressive. Unless there are new studies.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by hairygrandpa View Post
    I think you are confusing it with SARMS. OP takes mk-677, a hgh secretagogue. As far I know, its not suppressive. Unless there are new studies.
    Second this.

    Although OP should not feel like a GH secretalogue is a natty supp. This is kinda ****ed up actually, there is so much available and so many users that 20yos think mk667 is natty and don't try to achieve their best by themselves. I'm 25 and sadly a lot of guys my age think like OP.

    Lmao when i was 20 i was careful not to overdose creatine

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Chamaan View Post
    Second this.

    Although OP should not feel like a GH secretalogue is a natty supp. This is kinda ****ed up actually, there is so much available and so many users that 20yos think mk667 is natty and don't try to achieve their best by themselves. I'm 25 and sadly a lot of guys my age think like OP.

    Lmao when i was 20 i was careful not to overdose creatine
    I did get my SARM mixed up, you're right.

    That said:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16455774

    These observations reinforce the contention that ghrelin, as putative signal for energy insufficiency, may operate as negative modifier of male puberty and LH secretion, an effect that might be, at least partially, conducted through a GH secretagogue receptor type 1a-independent mechanism.

    This compound is not within the "natural" class by any means. It will absolutely cause hormone disruption of some kind. The human body is very smart...take one hormone and cause it to be increased significantly, and a cascade of corrective actions will be taken.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by TheSuppGuy View Post
    What do you mean? I don't feel surpressed at all? What does it surpress?
    It isn't suppressive. It does very little in terms of adding lean mass though. Keep in mind that most studies, demonstrating a few lbs of muscle gains, were done on regular persons -or elderly -not on lifters. MK-677 may make a difference in an "anabolic environment" (roids, insulin, PH's, Sarms).
    On its own:
    -accelerated healing
    -better recovery
    -lose some fat

    BUT:
    -it makes you hungry (bye-bye fat loss)
    -may bloat you up after awhile (with that comes high blood pressure)
    -messes with your sleep pattern
    -elevates blood sugar
    -nerve pain, numbness, cramps

    See? Nothing in the world of PED's is without negative side effects.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by hairygrandpa View Post
    It isn't suppressive. It does very little in terms of adding lean mass though. Keep in mind that most studies, demonstrating a few lbs of muscle gains, were done on regular persons -or elderly -not on lifters. MK-677 may make a difference in an "anabolic environment" (roids, insulin, PH's, Sarms).
    On its own:
    -accelerated healing
    -better recovery
    -lose some fat

    BUT:
    -it makes you hungry (bye-bye fat loss)
    -may bloat you up after awhile (with that comes high blood pressure)
    -messes with your sleep pattern
    -elevates blood sugar
    -nerve pain, numbness, cramps

    See? Nothing in the world of PED's is without negative side effects.
    Yeah... I see. I get all of the side effects u mentioned, and even bad self esteem, anxiety sometimes and alot of lethargy. But I just got done with my last bottle for now and am pretty happy with my strength! Time to lean down now!

  20. I started using pro hormones and designer steroids at about 16. It is completely stupid to use any before your 30’s. Trust me when I say I wish I never got in the game so early. Take advantage of your natural high hormones now.

  21. First of all, MK-677 is not a SARM but a GH secretagogue. It's more like a GHRP-6.

    Secondly it does not suppress you at all, meaning it does not need a PCT.

    You rarely cycle mk677 alone, it's more of a stack compound. Imo the best option for a bulk cycle since MK-677 CAN increase your hunger ALOT.
    I usually stack this with LGD4033 and RAD140.

    Where my cycle looks like: LGD+RAD 12 weeks. MK-677 4 months. And since it's not suppressive you just run mk677 along side your PCT.

    If you wonder about the 4 months... well MK-677 cycle length is a minimum of 3 months and a max of 6 months. Shorter periods of 3 months is a waste of money and time.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Spexxarn View Post
    First of all, MK-677 is not a SARM but a GH secretagogue. It's more like a GHRP-6.

    Secondly it does not suppress you at all, meaning it does not need a PCT.

    You rarely cycle mk677 alone, it's more of a stack compound. Imo the best option for a bulk cycle since MK-677 CAN increase your hunger ALOT.
    I usually stack this with LGD4033 and RAD140.

    Where my cycle looks like: LGD+RAD 12 weeks. MK-677 4 months. And since it's not suppressive you just run mk677 along side your PCT.

    If you wonder about the 4 months... well MK-677 cycle length is a minimum of 3 months and a max of 6 months. Shorter periods of 3 months is a waste of money and time.
    Why is it a minimum of 3 months? What happens then that does not happen in the beginning?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by TheSuppGuy View Post
    Why is it a minimum of 3 months? What happens then that does not happen in the beginning?
    Because it's a GH. The longer you stay on, the better in terms of potential Hyperplasia and long-term increased muscle growth potential. Which will also help you keep more gains.

    As long as you keep your blood sugar and other health markers in check.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Spexxarn View Post
    First of all, MK-677 is not a SARM but a GH secretagogue. It's more like a GHRP-6.

    Secondly it does not suppress you at all, meaning it does not need a PCT.

    You rarely cycle mk677 alone, it's more of a stack compound. Imo the best option for a bulk cycle since MK-677 CAN increase your hunger ALOT.
    I usually stack this with LGD4033 and RAD140.

    Where my cycle looks like: LGD+RAD 12 weeks. MK-677 4 months. And since it's not suppressive you just run mk677 along side your PCT.

    If you wonder about the 4 months... well MK-677 cycle length is a minimum of 3 months and a max of 6 months. Shorter periods of 3 months is a waste of money and time.
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  25. If itís banned by wada it ainít natty.

    Most PEDs take some time to actually start getting good. Cutting it shorter than that isnít smart, you still get sides, but then get no results.

    Would you rather run 4 cycles a year for a decade and net a couple lbs each time, constantly having your hpta going up and down... ?

    I know what Iím inferring goes against the grain of the mantra here of short cycles with low doses. But thereís a point of diminished returns in both directions. Too much is too much, for sure. But, If itís not enough itís not enough. Most of what I see done these days falls under one of those. I rarely see an adequately dosed cycle run for an appropriate amount of time. Instead itís guys taking not nearly enough for not nearly long enough and getting sides. Then they complain about it.
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