Ergonine discontinued?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by BCseacow83 View Post
    At the end of the day they are a business and the bottom line tells the story. If the market no longer desires their offerings the free market will handle it the situation. I do feel they could still produce Anabeta but at the time of it's discontinuation the stated the sales simply were not there to support continuing to manufacture. We are such a small sliver of the supplement buying public that what we all love and want on here may not be the case for the remaining 95% of the buring public.

    For someone with the motivation/capital this could be an opportunity................... If it would increase sales PES would, and could, go back to it's old lineup. Its just business.
    Discontinued old alphamine, a fat burner people still treat as a benchmark. ABE still comparably a good formulated anabolic that was the best with ArA and people still goad on liking, and ergonine something people drink everyday for several months. I know I spent a couple hundred on it.

    I don’t think PES knows what the market or the people want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockzilla View Post
    Discontinued old alphamine, a fat burner people still treat as a benchmark. ABE still comparably a good formulated anabolic that was the best with ArA and people still goad on liking, and ergonine something people drink everyday for several months. I know I spent a couple hundred on it.

    I donít think PES knows what the market or the people want.
    They clearly do.
    They want to focus on marketing the company across the entire world and international. Some of the ingredients in the previous formulations may be a red flag to customs and trying to get them overseas. From a business standpoint making your product avaiable world wide and getting it in more conusmers hands = increased business.

    For a lot of us on here who want more "hardcore", "Complete", or profiles with new and innovative ingredients that doesn't always comply with international regulations and customs. PES is very good at flavoring their products which about 99% of customers want a good tasting product even if the formula or dosing is not up to "Par" from a scientific standard.

    Hell look at Amino Energy. One of the most pixie dusted and watered down formula's out there, but it sells like crazy.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Rockzilla View Post
    Discontinued old alphamine, a fat burner people still treat as a benchmark. ABE still comparably a good formulated anabolic that was the best with ArA and people still goad on liking, and ergonine something people drink everyday for several months. I know I spent a couple hundred on it.

    I donít think PES knows what the market or the people want.
    That again is the beauty of free markets, if they really don't know what they are doing they will eventually fail. We are not forced to buy anything, yet at least give the young upcoming generation of commies a chance though right lol, so vote with your dollars.

    I flipped about the Alphamine like most did but I will be honest I really like the new one, and no lie, over the old for me now. I am now 35 and for some reason, all the years of stims has taken it's toll. Even the fantastic Y extract they had now makes me paranoid and uncomfortable when I use it every so often(I have about 1/4 of an old tub exp. 2/18.) I enjoy drinking the new one now and for my needs these days it is more than enough. When I need to step it up I can simply add 12.5mg Ephedrine and 25mg synephrine and it beats the OG hands down anyways.

    Those of us that want the crazy strong borderline legal stuff are such a small minority and even then most of those people still bash a natural product in favor of drugs, look at the negative animostiy towards stuff like Vector. Heck back in the day we used to argue with people about anabeta and why we would use that when stuff like SD and Epistane was widely available.

    PES knows what they are doing it's simply not want some wish they were doing. Once again for someone who is motivated this could be seen as an oportunity. Why no one has come up with a clone or something very very close to PES's old offerings is beyond me.

  4. ^seriously easy money to make a brand new ergonine

    Calcium 220 mg 22%, (as alpha-Hydroxyisocaproate Calcium Salt), Creatine Anhydrous (TruCreatine) 3,000 mg **, Betaine Anhydrous 2,500 mg **, TruGlutamine Blend 2,500 mg **, L-Alanine, L-Glutamine, L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate 2,000 mg **, Hydroxy-Isocaproic Acid 1,500 mg **, (as alpha-Hydroxyisocaproate Calcium Salt), PerformaLean Blend 1,100 mg **, Choline Bitartrate, Glycerol 65% (HydroMAX), Ferula, Asafoetida (Root) Extract (95% Ferulic Acid), ** Daily Value Not Established, Other Ingredients: Citric Acid, Silicon Dioxide, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium, FD&C Blue 1, Titanium Dioxide Color.,
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIronAsylum View Post
    ^seriously easy money to make a brand new ergonine

    Calcium 220 mg 22%, (as alpha-Hydroxyisocaproate Calcium Salt), Creatine Anhydrous (TruCreatine) 3,000 mg **, Betaine Anhydrous 2,500 mg **, TruGlutamine Blend 2,500 mg **, L-Alanine, L-Glutamine, L-Carnitine-L-Tartrate 2,000 mg **, Hydroxy-Isocaproic Acid 1,500 mg **, (as alpha-Hydroxyisocaproate Calcium Salt), PerformaLean Blend 1,100 mg **, Choline Bitartrate, Glycerol 65% (HydroMAX), Ferula, Asafoetida (Root) Extract (95% Ferulic Acid), ** Daily Value Not Established, Other Ingredients: Citric Acid, Silicon Dioxide, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium, FD&C Blue 1, Titanium Dioxide Color.,
    In yours eyes its easiser, but to a company not making money or having the product sell its a lost cause. Thats the issue. Most consumers don't care for an all in 1 product. They rather have a tasty amino acid or pre-workout, not an ergogenic formula. Go ask most people who workout in a community or local gym about getting full doses of ergogenic ingredients and they will just look at like a deer in headlights confused.

    The views we have on an online forum are much more drastic towards open labels, fully dosed products, and containing new and innovative ingredients. For 99% of consumers its the exact opposite. From a business perspective PES did what they needed to prevent and future money loss if the product was not selling or being pushed well.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by john.patterson View Post
    IntraMax would be a perfect replacement. Tr1umph would work too, but it's a bit different with the addition of PA. IntraMax is a solid product that covers your daily staples
    IntraMax is a great option. I've been a long time PES fan, no denying that. FitMax for those missing Alphamine, and IntraMax for Ergonine.

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  7. Quote Originally Posted by john.patterson View Post
    IntraMax would be a perfect replacement. Tr1umph would work too, but it's a bit different with the addition of PA. IntraMax is a solid product that covers your daily staples
    Do you have a link to intramax? Couldn't find it. Thanks.

  8. opened my last jug of ergonine last week, sad day. Not sure what I'll replace it with.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Rebel1978 View Post
    opened my last jug of ergonine last week, sad day. Not sure what I'll replace it with.
    Very sad day. Can't be replaced easily at all with all that is lost from the ingredient panel. Not to mention the incredible flavor choices that were available for E9. :/
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  10. made no sense at the time to d/c it, but I guess since nobody has really stepped up to make a replacement, must not be a market for a product like it.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Rebel1978 View Post
    made no sense at the time to d/c it, but I guess since nobody has really stepped up to make a replacement, must not be a market for a product like it.
    It's honestly kind of embarrassing to see some of the products on the best seller lists then see one like ergonine not sell enough to justify production. Many factors are involved but an unfortunate one can be summed up by uninformed customers being led by salesman or people with biased motives or by other uninformed supplement users. A product as versatile and well rounded as ergonine should fly off the shelf.
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  12. Very sad indeed.
    Just got two bottles left, was staple for sure
    First used tr1umph also very good all in one
    Creatine product.
    I thought they would reform Tr1umph?

    Some other all in one recommodations?

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Cogy View Post
    Very sad indeed.
    Just got two bottles left, was staple for sure
    First used tr1umph also very good all in one
    Creatine product.
    I thought they would reform Tr1umph?

    Some other all in one recommodations?
    I've never tried Tr1umph but have also heard it recommended as the closest thing to E9. May have to give it a look now that you reminded me.
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  15. I thought Performax was doing a new Intramax reformulation as well

  16. Im dumping the remains of my ergonine. Worst tasting supp ever, all flavours. Honestly cant stomach them.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Nac View Post
    Im dumping the remains of my ergonine. Worst tasting supp ever, all flavours. Honestly cant stomach them.
    I'll take it off your hands. Be a shame to waste it.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Rebel1978 View Post
    made no sense at the time to d/c it, but I guess since nobody has really stepped up to make a replacement, must not be a market for a product like it.
    Yeah, I mean, companies rarely discontinue products if theyíre selling well.

    Saw the same thing with OLís product

  19. Quote Originally Posted by kelvarnsen View Post
    I thought Performax was doing a new Intramax reformulation as well
    Been waiting for this as well.....no updates in quite some time and they already pulled the old Intramax off the shelves.
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    Only problem with them is their flavoring is very subpar
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    I thought Performax was doing a new Intramax reformulation as well
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  21. Interesting news. I've yet to try their products so can't say anything towards the flavoring. Will have to keep my eyes peeled.
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