ANY NEW NATURAL ANABOLICS
- 01-10-2018, 09:45 AM
- 01-10-2018, 11:35 AM
Iím currently running X-Gels with CEL M-Test for a 50 day run with the goal of adding some retainable poundage and then following it up with Follidrone 2.0 to lean it out a bit going into the spring.
I can post some before and after pics of the X-Gels/M-test run and then additional set post-F2.0. Considered a log like Iíd run back in the day under my previous username, (which I forgot the password to and the password to that email that was linked to it so I had to start from scratch LOL)
01-10-2018, 12:26 PM
I got a good enough deal on MassMax (x2 bottles) to give it a shot.
I'm on my 5th full week with it (started 12/4/17) and up 5lbs exact. I'm not sure what to blame that on the most though as I also started a 300 calorie surplus at the same time as starting. Last week, 1/1/18, I added another 100 calories and may need to add another 100 as my weight has stopped at +5lbs. My current training regimen is a 4 day upper/lower split focusing on progressive overload, compound lifts primarily + isolation accessories.
Thing is - the weight gain does feel totally lean so far. Vascularity has remained the same, if not BETTER. My waist is up 1" as of two days ago but that might have been bloat. Going to measure again in two days because that 1" gain would mean it gained 1" in a week (last time I checked was 1/1/18 or 1/2/18) which doesn't make sense to me.
Overall I'm happy with it. If it's not aiding in weight gain, it may at least be helping keep the weight lean.
01-10-2018, 01:53 PM
A majority of the MassMax loggers gain around 7lbs in 4 weeks, so seeing that you have gained a lean 5lbs, its pretty on-par with other peoples results.
01-11-2018, 10:12 AM
01-11-2018, 10:25 AM
I am currently running some cheap Tribulus 90% (obviously Bulls...) at 4 grams a day (which is double the recommended dosage) 500 caps at 500mg were less than 20$ (it is sold in Germany or via Amazon).
I am three weeks in, strength is up, recovery is better and mood is good. So basically what test boosters at 30-40$ are doing, and I have tried them all.
I think I will stick with this, save some money and rotate with my beloved Turkesterone extract which performs better in the recovery department.
01-11-2018, 10:36 AM
Theres your eBay link so that proves you wrong for a start.
Just because reps who you know have never heard of it doesn't mean it's bunk, you will find a lot of knowledgeable people in this forum and a lot of new and old products that you've never heard of.
I see you only have 3 posts so welcome to AM and enjoy your stay.
01-11-2018, 11:26 AM
Check out those logs and the company who makes it Black Lion Research is about to launch a product called Vector. Testing showed an average 12lbs gain in mass over 30 days and the final product will have 150% of the test product. Stoked for that launch
01-11-2018, 09:02 PM
Sure, there is plenty of room for a stronger natty product but until its found and actually makes it to market, you got to give the current stuff a chance.. have you ran ARA, FD2, or any of the other natty products out now? you mention PH gains.. do you use them??
I only say this because if your expecting PH like gains from natural products you better be certain you haven't washed out your receptors with PH/DSs. because the actions are subtle you need a clean system to really appreciate the power of these products. I tend to agree with most of what your saying so don't misconstrue what Im driving at.
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01-11-2018, 11:39 PM
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01-12-2018, 12:15 AM
ANY NEW NATURAL ANABOLICS
Big fan of massmax, ep1logue, and x gels. ABE was great as well. I have some follidrone 2.0 on the way as well that Iíll be running for an extended period of time so Iíll be able to provide some great feedback and comparisons to the other products. Have not used massacr3 but other laxo products have always put mass on me, albeit it seemed to be a little wet, but also did wonders for my joints and mobility. And although not designed/marketed as an Anabolic, GlycÝshield can certainly serve as one as it will allow you to eat well above maintenance, mainly by way of carbs, to continuously add lean mass and limit/eliminate fat gain in the process
01-12-2018, 12:18 AM
01-12-2018, 05:27 AM
01-12-2018, 09:26 AM
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01-12-2018, 10:22 AM
Maybe just try the product and log it.
01-12-2018, 12:15 PM
Search ability/SEO also has nothing to do with the popularity of a product, it's simply digital marketing and the ability to ping high for specific key words so again that means almost nothing. Search the term you just said, Growth Factor 9 and TestroVax from GNC are one of the first. Do you think it's cause those two are the best for muscle growth or cause GNC has the money to be top listed for specific key words. This point is not even relevant to the effectiveness or popularity of MassMax.
I understand the skepticism but please realize we didn't make this product and go around start claiming people are gaining 5lbs in 4 weeks. We're simply relaying what loggers are reporting. I quoted 5-6 people that have all said the same thing on unbiased reviews and there's plenty more! We appreciate the feedback but we're not just pulling a number out of the air, it's simply what users are reporting. Would be interested for you to try the product yourself.
01-13-2018, 12:18 PM
Naw, give me something that actually give me some quality strength&muscle instead, being a fat ass I can do all by myself
01-13-2018, 02:05 PM
01-14-2018, 07:27 PM
It really is ridiculous the gov't has taken hormones away from us as a reasonably safe method of gaining size and strength. They've been around for over 60 years, their side effects are known, and the way to deal with those are known too. But I/we don't make the laws, we just live with them. Progenadrex was my best crack at it, and I'm grateful that years later you and others are still gaining...
01-14-2018, 07:49 PM
01-24-2018, 02:47 PM
Wont be long now.
VECTOR, the next natural anabolic from Black Lion Research is on the way.
We are already into raw material extraction and I suspect we will be ready to roll in 2 weeks or so.
This stuff has tested extremely well.
You will understand how and why when you see the breakdown on this product. Its overall blend of chemical constituents is very interesting.
This is going to be a great mass builder as it increases hunger.
All of the testers from single ingredient testers through the final product gained weight but the final test product has been the most interesting.
-Androgenic effects such as libido, aggression etc.
-Anabolic effects, muscle growth, anti catabolic
-Strength more than 1 tester hit PRs while testing.
-Fat loss everyone mentioned at least some fat loss while gaining weight overall. Was common to see overall weight increase of 7+ lbs but with fat loss so actual increase was likely in the 10+lbs range.
-Performance enhancement was reported by most. Endurance, less fatigue, faster recovery.
Once the raws land Ill release a writeup with a detailed outline of the ingredients and how they work.
There will be a brief pre sale. Maybe 24 hours, then normal sales will begin.
Again we expect less than 3 weeks.
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01-24-2018, 04:05 PM
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01-24-2018, 05:22 PM
01-24-2018, 05:35 PM
Bought a 4.5 pound bag of organic quinoa, grains are making me so hungry all the time. Taking 150grams right after my workout with 3 whole eggs.
01-24-2018, 11:23 PM
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