what kind of gains did you get off it? I'm in PCT and taking dermasize along with SNS CVM extreme and CE2 and I'm getting great strength gains still
That's almost exactly my story. I used M1,4add and 1-test Estergels for eight weeks. During that time I broke into new territory in terms of strength and (I think) size (I don't obsess over measurements...all I can say for sure is that I felt full and suits were getting tighter in the right spots.)
Then I came off with tamoxifen and Product X. First week I had no strength gains, but lost nothing in terms of size or strength either. Second week through the seventh week my strength climbed and I kept getting bigger (with a little bloat, too.) Squat, from beginning of PCT through seven weeks on Product X, went up 40 lbs. (225x10 to 265x10...this is after sets of leg extensions/curls to failure...I can't squat first otherwise my knees start to bother me) and narrow grip press went up 10 lbs. (225x10 to 235x10...I can't do a normal grip bench press because it bothers my shoulders, so I do weighted dips then narrow grip press.) Every exercise was up pretty dramatically, and like I said, I was in all new territory so this wasn't a guy reaching old personal bests. I was pretty excited about the numbers I was putting up...may not seem like alot to some...but I was gaining strength every workout and faster than I ever had on PH's.
Now here's what I don't know...I'm not sure how well I would've retained those strength/size gains after coming off. Right after the seventh week on Product X I got a real bad intestinal virus. I threw up for two days and didn't feel quite right again for about three weeks. I ate like garbage, if at all, and didn't have the physical strength to train. A little over four weeks after getting the virus, I got back in the groove of training hard. It has been two weeks and I'm not where I was...I'm at 235x9 in the squat and 230x9 in the narrow grip press. That's just about where I was before I started using Product X.
I just started using it again...last night was the first application. We'll see what the next eight weeks brings me. I will say that putting the **** on is a pain in the ass.