perhaps, the orginal bliss shots were spiked
Possible, but personally, I doubt. The original had a 100:1 Kanna extract and the new one is at 10:1. To break that down in my own experienc, If I use kanna at a weak dose, I feel absolutely zero. However, If use it a high dose, my libido and mood is elevated very very nicely. I personally think that's the reason for the many 'nonrsponders' to the 2nd version.
As for the earlier quote aboute elevate, I can vouch for those. That ingredient panel is almost identical and the effects are as well. Here's an amazing combo to try as well:
1-1.5 gs of Phenibut (keep it kinda low, we're mixing fellas)
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2 peasized amounts of Kava paste84 (also, although its nasty, swish the paste around in your mouth just for a second and then swallow. It will give your mouth a very nice numb sensation for about 10 minutes or so.
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1 bottle of Elevate (or original bliss, 3rd but weak other option-2 bottles of the new night bliss shot)
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anywhere from 4-8 yager bombs depending on your tolerance.
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Very laid back, but talkative and outgoing, stress free, happy and chilled type of feeling with an extreme love of any type of rubbing or massage.
I know that sounds weird, but seriously, give it a shot, and tell me how it felt.
and post it here..............