Test Cyp, YK11, 191aa somatropin first cycle

[Last1Der]

Good morning,

Hoping to get some constructive criticism/thoughts on my first true AAS cycle...

Test Cyp 500mg/week, 15weeks
HCG 250iu/week, 15 weeks
Anastrozole 1mg/day, 15 weeks
Yk11 10mg/day, 15 weeks
191aa 4iu/day, 8 weeks
Torem for pct, 4 weeks

Other complementary supplements, but that’s pretty much the meat and potatoes.

Thoughts? TIA

 

[Last1Der]

On 2nd thought, imma skip the arimidex and supplement with estrogen and progesterone

 

[YoungThor]

Hopefully yk11 doesn’t turn you into a lunatic like it did to me.

 

[danielvp]

Good morning,

Hoping to get some constructive criticism/thoughts on my first true AAS cycle...

Test Cyp 500mg/week, 15weeks
HCG 250iu/week, 15 weeks
Anastrozole 1mg/day, 15 weeks
Yk11 10mg/day, 15 weeks
191aa 4iu/day, 8 weeks
Torem for pct, 4 weeks

Other complementary supplements, but that’s pretty much the meat and potatoes.

Thoughts? TIA

That looks like way too much anastrozole to me. 15 weeks is a long time to run YK11 as it is liver toxic, but you may be able to at only 10 mg. I would run the GH through your whole cycle + PCT and beyond to maintain your gains, 16 weeks minimum. You will definitely be disappointed with only 8 weeks on GH.

 

[Last1Der]

That looks like way too much anastrozole to me. 15 weeks is a long time to run YK11 as it is liver toxic, but you may be able to at only 10 mg. I would run the GH through your whole cycle + PCT and beyond to maintain your gains, 16 weeks minimum. You will definitely be disappointed with only 8 weeks on GH.

That was my original plan, till I priced it out LOL. Unless someone else has a solid source, I don’t have an extra thousand dollars for that...

 

[danielvp]

That was my original plan, till I priced it out LOL. Unless someone else has a solid source, I don’t have an extra thousand dollars for that...

I would look into MK-677 if I were you. Also do more research on estrogen control.

 

[Last1Der]

I would look into MK-677 if I were you. Also do more research on estrogen control.

I’ve never used an AI before. All the research I’ve done recommends .5-1.0 mg/day for Arimidex.

 

[Last1Der]

That looks like way too much anastrozole to me. 15 weeks is a long time to run YK11 as it is liver toxic, but you may be able to at only 10 mg.

Of all the extensive research I’ve done, there has been 0 reputable evidence concluding that YK-11 has any toxic effect on the liver that I could find. Enlighten me?

 

[danielvp]

I’ve never used an AI before. All the research I’ve done recommends .5-1.0 mg/day for Arimidex.

That's the dosage for women's breast cancer. 0.5 mg eod is a good starting point but you should probably get bloods done to dial in your e2. No offense, but I think you need to do a lot more research before doing this cycle.

 

[danielvp]

Of all the extensive research I’ve done, there has been 0 reputable evidence concluding that YK-11 has any toxic effect on the liver that I could find. Enlighten me?

Well there are zero human studies on yk11 so that's part of the problem. It is a methylated oral steroid, so there will most definitely be liver toxicity. From the user reports I've read, the toxicity seems low, but still, I would not run it for 15 weeks at any dose.

 

[Last1Der]

Well there are zero human studies on yk11 so that's part of the problem. It is a methylated oral steroid, so there will most definitely be liver toxicity. From the user reports I've read, the toxicity seems low, but still, I would not run it for 15 weeks at any dose.

Thanks for the info. I can easily shorten this up to 8-10 weeks.

 

[Last1Der]

That's the dosage for women's breast cancer. 0.5 mg eod is a good starting point but you should probably get bloods done to dial in your e2. No offense, but I think you need to do a lot more research before doing this cycle.

As I’m sure everyone is different, I can plan on starting out .5mg e3d and adjust accordingly. Thanks

 

[Borashi]

I ran yk11 15mgs for 8 weeks, no problem. Little aggression, but manageable.

 

[bigbeaph]

I ran yk11 15mgs for 8 weeks, no problem. Little aggression, but manageable.

Gains?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

i run anastrozol @ 1mg per day all the time. its just gonna depend on how much you need to control estrogen

 

[Last1Der]

Welp I’ve modified this, and any feedback is much appreciated.

I’m going to run Alchemy Labs Shredded3 4w before starting this cycle, just to give cut me up a little more...

Test Cyp 500mg/week, 15weeks
HCG 250iu/week, 15 weeks
Anastrozole .5mg/e3d, 15 weeks
Yk11 10mg/day, 10 weeks
MK-677 25mg/day, 16 weeks
Torem for pct, 4 weeks

 

[Borashi]

Ran with 10mgs LGD and actually made strength gains while losing body fat. Gained #40 on my mid shoulder rows.Three weeks into pct and strength remains. I even took a full week off after cycle ended, to recover and changed my diet to more salmon less steak, I'm down to 176 with all the strength I had at mid 180s. Feel great.

 

[Old Witch]

Of all the extensive research I’ve done, there has been 0 reputable evidence concluding that YK-11 has any toxic effect on the liver that I could find. Enlighten me?

It is 17a methylated, actually.

 

[Last1Der]

It is 17a methylated, actually.
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Thanks for the info.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

It is 17a methylated, actually.

and that, ends this debate.

 

[Last1Der]

I just found a rogue bottle of testolone in the archives. Thinking about adding it in near cycle end. Thoughts?

 

[jtbull]

and that, ends this debate.

I was not aware any sarms were 17a, but then again i was told yk11 is not really a sarm.

 

[bigbeaph]

I was not aware any sarms were 17a, but then again i was told yk11 is not really a sarm.

there are quite a few "sarms" that are not chemically sarms. MK677 and YK11 off the top of my head....honestly dont know how they got the sarm label except for timing.

YK11 looks like a very interesting compound

 

[Borashi]

Caradine is considered a ppar agonist as well, not an actual Sarm.

 

[Borashi]

Yk11 has the backbone scientifically of a steroid. It was misclassified as a Sarm when introduced to garner more attention, research money.

 

[Borashi]

My only advice if you run yk11, run full liver support, drink a ton of fluids, yk11 has 4 methyl groups in its chemical structure, making it very liver toxic. This one tends to be misunderstood the most due to novelty, lack of studies.

 

[manifesto]

Bump this thread for more info

Anyone in here still alive? Any new opinions on yk-11, specifically injectable

 

[manifesto]

Hopefully yk11 doesn’t turn you into a lunatic like it did to me.

How did it turn you into a lunatic?

 

[Richie Rich]

Bump this thread for more info

Anyone in here still alive? Any new opinions on yk-11, specifically injectable

I've ran oral and injectable. Less sides using injectable. Strength gains were solid, like 25 pounds on my bench, Good pumps, always looked full. 20mg a day to start is good, anything 40mg and above doesn't do much. You'll feel it in a week.

 

[manifesto]

I've ran oral and injectable. Less sides using injectable. Strength gains were solid, like 25 pounds on my bench, Good pumps, always looked full. 20mg a day to start is good, anything 40mg and above doesn't do much. You'll feel it in a week.

Did u split the dose? Or all pre workout

 

[Power-Lift]

500-test (IMO only) is too much for a 1st cycle. I know most web-sites/forums say "500 to start" but others (John Jewett) recommend 1/2 of that, and I agree with that outlook. (Post is old I know, just adding my 2 CC's)..

 

[manifesto]

@Richie Rich

Did you split up that 20mg dose?

Also, did you notice any mental side effects from it?

One of the guys in the thread said it made him feel like a "lunatic"

 

[manifesto]

 

[Hyde]

@Richie Rich

Did you split up that 20mg dose?

Also, did you notice any mental side effects from it?

One of the guys in the thread said it made him feel like a "lunatic"

Many guys note aggression, but I haven’t used it.

 

[manifesto]

Many guys note aggression, but I haven’t used it.

For some reason I'm so tempted to try this stuff at the end of my cycle...sounds awesome...

But, I just started back on an SSRI for some anxiety and PTSD.. so im not sure it's worth the risk

 

[jtbull]

may sarms seeem to remind people of a steroid. What is the verdict on yk-11? most many say s23 is more a winny and s4 or lgd are more compared to dboll?

 

[manifesto]

may sarms seeem to remind people of a steroid. What is the verdict on yk-11? most many say s23 is more a winny and s4 or lgd are more compared to dboll?

I've heard yk 11 described as similar to Tren

 

[gphagan1]

For some reason I'm so tempted to try this stuff at the end of my cycle...sounds awesome...

But, I just started back on an SSRI for some anxiety and PTSD.. so im not sure it's worth the risk

I probably wouldn’t risk it brother, especially if you suffer from PTSD. I haven’t tried it, but have heard of a few have the mental sides, and others that didn’t have any sides. Sometimes you never know until you try it, but not worth the risk in my opinion.

 

[Smont]

I've heard yk 11 described as similar to Tren

Not even close, if anything I'd say yk11 is more like Winny and s23 is more like tren.

Bother watered down versions of course.

Injectable versions of both seem to be stronger then the oral version tho.

 

[Smont]

Watch out for hair shedding on yk, not many things make my hair shed but YK definitely did

 

[manifesto]

Watch out for hair shedding on yk, not many things make my hair shed but YK definitely did

Did you run injectable?

 

[Smont]

Did you run injectable?

No, only the oral for yk, But I'm pretty sure Hyde and a few others have used the injectable. So far it seems like the injectable version of every sarm is much more potent.

 

[Smont]

Did you run injectable?

I've ran the injectable version of lgd and s23.
For orals I've taken all the original sarms. I'm sure there's some new ones I haven't tried.

They all work in a dose dependent fashion similar to steroids. My opinion is that they all seem so do something around 10-15mg, but that something is not really worth my while, at 20-30 they all work decent and if you get up around 40-50mg they work more like steroids.

 

[Hyde]

No, only the oral for yk, But I'm pretty sure Hyde and a few others have used the injectable. So far it seems like the injectable version of every sarm is much more potent.

Negative, only injectable LGD at 25-30mg/day, which is decent & low-side but probably not worthwhile over a traditional oral with human data at those doses, like just eating 25mg of Var or Dbol per day.

Unfortunately I haven’t tried YK yet. Being a strength athlete, it mildly terrifies me with the reports of tendon failure during some YK runs.

I do have a couple sealed bottles of 6mg YK11 capsules and bottle of 50mg EACH YK11/LGD4033 per ml oil if anyone is on the lookout…

 

[manifesto]

Negative, only injectable LGD at 25-30mg/day, which is decent & low-side but probably not worthwhile over a traditional oral with human data at those doses, like just eating 25mg of Var or Dbol per day.

Unfortunately I haven’t tried YK yet. Being a strength athlete, it mildly terrifies me with the reports of tendon failure during some YK runs.

I do have a couple sealed bottles of 6mg YK11 capsules and bottle of 50mg EACH YK11/LGD4033 per ml oil if anyone is on the lookout…

Yeah, I have some injectabIe YK I'm really tempted to wrap up my blast with....

 

[manifesto]

Watch out for hair shedding on yk, not many things make my hair shed but YK definitely did

I wonder why the YK makes some people shed? I know there isn't alot of research on it, and I also read somewhere it's stronger than DHT....so who knows...

 

[Richie Rich]

I wonder why the YK makes some people shed? I know there isn't alot of research on it, and I also read somewhere it's stronger than DHT....so who knows...

I didn't notice too much shedding but hair on my back grew like no other. I took it pre workout. I didn't have any rage or lunatic tendencies or anything like that.

S23 is more like Winny, tren is tren. Yk is yk. Its own compound.

 

[manifesto]

I didn't notice too much shedding but hair on my back grew like no other. I took it pre workout. I didn't have any rage or lunatic tendencies or anything like that.

S23 is more like Winny, tren is tren. Yk is yk. Its own compound.

How did u like the YK? Strength gains, mass gains?

 

[Richie Rich]

How did u like the YK? Strength gains, mass gains?

Both. I'm gonna run it again soon. Solid compound.

 

[manifesto]

Both. I'm gonna run it again soon. Solid compound.

Nice and you ran 20mg injectable daily for how long?