cycle help

[ducho15]

Hey guys i need help from more experienced.
I am planning my first pinning cycle.
So i have
testE 9g
superdroll
10000 iu hcg
and essentials
aromasin nolva caber letro tudca anadrol proviron cialis mk677 etc

Ok so my plan is week 1-4 test E-600/750mg superdroll i will see probably 20-30 mg + tudca, aromasin maybe proviron
5-8 test E-600/750mg without superdroll + tudca, aromasin /proviron
9-12 test E-600/750mg superdroll 20/30mg + tudca, aromasin, maybe proviron

So 1. question is should i go 12 weeks with 750mg of test or more weeks with 600mg or leave some gear and dont use it
2. in which week should i start HCG and how much and how often only during cycle i know some use it in PCT and its retarded so only
during cycle

Thanks for help

 

[Whisky]

You said this is your first pinning cycle but what have you run before bro?

600mg + straight out of the gate is high for a first test e cycle. I’m all for building up over the course of a cycle (most would say run a straight 500 or less throughout) but wouldn’t start that high. You need to establish what sides you might get and dial in an ai.

I’m using hcg 500 a week split into two at the moment on my first test e cycle. Was the standard I seemed to find when researching.

 

[Chados]

You said this is your first pinning cycle but what have you run before bro?

600mg + straight out of the gate is high for a first test e cycle. I’m all for building up over the course of a cycle (most would say run a straight 500 or less throughout) but wouldn’t start that high. You need to establish what sides you might get and dial in an ai.

I’m using hcg 500 a week split into two at the moment on my first test e cycle. Was the standard I seemed to find when researching.

Agree that cycle seems overkill..

 

[ducho15]

Hi i used prohormones multiple times but not test. Superdroll 2 times , msten,halodrol,epistane but never test E so i dont know i am using 600mg just because i heared from doctor its safe dose so whats youre suggestion start at 500mg and then increase ? during cycle ?

 

[ducho15]

I runned maybe 4 cycles of prohormones so i dont know do you still think its overkill ? superdroll is stronger than tren so i dont know if this is really overkill. I used it before so will adding test really cause overkill i really dont think so but you are for sure more experienced

 

[christ83189]

Hi i used prohormones multiple times but not test. Superdroll 2 times , msten,halodrol,epistane but never test E so i dont know i am using 600mg just because i heared from doctor its safe dose so whats youre suggestion start at 500mg and then increase ? during cycle ?

Idk i wouldnt say the test dose is overkill. I love test at 600mg and that was what i ran my first time. If anything you could start at 500 for a few weeks and feel it out then increase like whisky was saying. Work your way up to 750. That way you can run it longer and you can see how you feel on each dose.
Something like:
Weeks 1-4 500mg+ superdrol


Weeks 5-8 600mg


Weeks 9-12 750mg-superdrol

Honestly idk if i would want to run superdrol for 8 weeks in such a short time frame. Ive never ran it ive just heard the sides are horrendous although the gains are so great its on my to do list. I see you have anadrol too which isn't quite as toxic i think so if you're dead set on running orals for starter+finisher than maybe swap one of them for the adrol. Dont know how much better it would be as far as sides go and damage to lipids etc but it couldnt be any worse

 

[ducho15]

Yeah everybody talks about how **** superdroll is but for me i had absolutely no sides not even cramps and i went for 6 weeks but with lot of tudca so amybe that helped. When i runned epistane i had bad cramps. And on halodrol i had very bad liver results on superdroll with tudca it was almost normal. So that why i palced it on start and end because it works well with me huge strength and size gains without sides. Anadroli dont know i can try but i dont think i will keep something from that.

 

[christ83189]

Yeah everybody talks about how **** superdroll is but for me i had absolutely no sides not even cramps and i went for 6 weeks but with lot of tudca so amybe that helped. When i runned epistane i had bad cramps. And on halodrol i had very bad liver results on superdroll with tudca it was almost normal. So that why i palced it on start and end because it works well with me huge strength and size gains without sides. Anadroli dont know i can try but i dont think i will keep something from that.

Why not?

 

[ducho15]

BTW even lehargy was almost non existent with tudca added. Lot of lethargy is caused by liver strain so if i judge it like that halodrol cycle was most hars on my liver looooot of lethargy superdroll with tudca no lethargy so if majority of lethargy on cycles without test base is cause by liver than this 6weeks cycle of superdroll was less harsh than halodrol for 4 weeks. just sain

 

[ducho15]

anadroll is mainly for strength as far as i know lot of powerlifters use it close to the meet. i think it primes your enrvous system so you dont have limits but as far as permanent strength and size gain i dont think its ment for that. But i never tried that i used superdroll so i know how that works i think you are right i will try anadroll at least once so anadrol on start to kickstart strength and then at the end superdroll depending on the feeling and liver values

 

[Chados]

Besides experiences side effects test just isn't as good of an anabolic or androgenic compound as other things so I'd rather go low and stack it.

A much better cycle and with less sides would be test at 300 and primo at 500

 

[ducho15]

its my first injectable so i will be happy if i will be able to inject myself thats why only test plus superdroll is strong as **** even without test i had ridiculous strength and size gains so with test it should be way better also there is a lot of time to try different things i am 25 so i will try some more maybe next year same time as this year i will keep it one cycle per year. We will see how will i handle those first ijections i will be injecting myself alone so yeah it will be a challenge those first shots if you have some tricks for me give them to me

 

[ducho15]

Also it will be interesting to see where can i push my arms biggest they was is around 48/49 cm i am 178 cm tall so it looks lets say pretty good last few cycles i wasnt really training them at all they just grow. This time i will **** them up even tho my calves cant grow for **** thats why i did not trained them but **** it maybe i will upload progres of my arm

 

[Renew1]

Ive never seen ANYONE run 8 weeks of Superdrol in a 12 week period. I strongly advise against it.

 

[ducho15]

But why peaople normaly run anadrol during whole cycle and anadrol isnt at all milder or safer its also toxic as **** plus you take more of it superdroll is more potent so u use less and lastly i used superdroll multiple times last time 6 weeks cycle with tudca and bloods was totaly normal my body is ok with superdroll somehow so i dont see point why not my liver never shows any signs of damege lipids are ok etc etc i will see of couse i will be monitoring myself its just something i will amybe run if everything will be ok its not 100% sure but i ve got you all of you read on internet about how toxic superdroll is etc etc how it ****ed people up and so on most of the times those ****ers eat like **** was complete noobs in gym they did not used tudca plus they used retarded doses i never drinked i use tudca in large doses i eat clean plus i know what i am doing in gym and nutrition wise so for me it wasnt toxic at all or at least my body handled it easily with help of nutrition and tudca just my 2 cents from experience

 

[christ83189]

But why peaople normaly run anadrol during whole cycle and anadrol isnt at all milder or safer its also toxic as **** plus you take more of it superdroll is more potent so u use less and lastly i used superdroll multiple times last time 6 weeks cycle with tudca and bloods was totaly normal my body is ok with superdroll somehow so i dont see point why not my liver never shows any signs of damege lipids are ok etc etc i will see of couse i will be monitoring myself its just something i will amybe run if everything will be ok its not 100% sure but i ve got you all of you read on internet about how toxic superdroll is etc etc how it ****ed people up and so on most of the times those ****ers eat like **** was complete noobs in gym they did not used tudca plus they used retarded doses i never drinked i use tudca in large doses i eat clean plus i know what i am doing in gym and nutrition wise so for me it wasnt toxic at all or at least my body handled it easily with help of nutrition and tudca just my 2 cents from experience

Go with your experience. Although i know lots of people who werent noobs had diet nailed down and used all available ancillaries and still couldnt handle sd's toxicity. You are an outlier when it comes to running sd side free. Trust me

 

[Whisky]

But why peaople normaly run anadrol during whole cycle and anadrol isnt at all milder or safer its also toxic as **** plus you take more of it superdroll is more potent so u use less and lastly i used superdroll multiple times last time 6 weeks cycle with tudca and bloods was totaly normal my body is ok with superdroll somehow so i dont see point why not my liver never shows any signs of damege lipids are ok etc etc i will see of couse i will be monitoring myself its just something i will amybe run if everything will be ok its not 100% sure but i ve got you all of you read on internet about how toxic superdroll is etc etc how it ****ed people up and so on most of the times those ****ers eat like **** was complete noobs in gym they did not used tudca plus they used retarded doses i never drinked i use tudca in large doses i eat clean plus i know what i am doing in gym and nutrition wise so for me it wasnt toxic at all or at least my body handled it easily with help of nutrition and tudca just my 2 cents from experience

The first two times I put my schlong in a crocodiles mouth, no problem. The third time made me a women.....

The past isn’t a guarantee of the future, it gives an insight but not a certainty.

 

[christ83189]

The first two times I put my schlong in a crocodiles mouth, no problem. The third time made me a women.....

The past isn’t a guarantee of the future, it gives an insight but not a certainty.

Lol

 

[DemntedCowboy]

But why peaople normaly run anadrol during whole cycle and anadrol isnt at all milder or safer its also toxic as **** plus you take more of it superdroll is more potent so u use less and lastly i used superdroll multiple times last time 6 weeks cycle with tudca and bloods was totaly normal my body is ok with superdroll somehow so i dont see point why not my liver never shows any signs of damege lipids are ok etc etc i will see of couse i will be monitoring myself its just something i will amybe run if everything will be ok its not 100% sure but i ve got you all of you read on internet about how toxic superdroll is etc etc how it ****ed people up and so on most of the times those ****ers eat like **** was complete noobs in gym they did not used tudca plus they used retarded doses i never drinked i use tudca in large doses i eat clean plus i know what i am doing in gym and nutrition wise so for me it wasnt toxic at all or at least my body handled it easily with help of nutrition and tudca just my 2 cents from experience

Anyone running Abombs for a whole cycle is an idiot.

 

[christ83189]

Anyone running Abombs for a whole cycle is an idiot.

Swimfan was running abombs for an extended period of time i think. He might have been doing 5 on 2 off though

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Swimfan was running abombs for an extended period of time i think. He might have been doing 5 on 2 off though

He may have been

 

[Whisky]

Swimfan was running abombs for an extended period of time i think. He might have been doing 5 on 2 off though

The rules are slightly different for a 350lb tank to be fair

 

[DemntedCowboy]

The rules are slightly different for a 350lb tank to be fair

This is true

 

[ducho15]

i totally agree i gues some of us just are more effective at absorbing certain compounds so maybe thats why my body dont need to fight with it and it results in no side effects or liver overload. Ok so i will run test E 12 weeks 500+mg and up and i will use superdroll for at least 4 weeks depending on body overload and feel ))

 

[ducho15]

Swimfan was running abombs for an extended period of time i think. He might have been doing 5 on 2 off though

look at larry wheels he is eating abombs like a candy also i do agree there may be difference when it comes to size of person using such compounds BUT the main factor is liver and i really dont think that person who is lets say 200 pounds when he starts lifting and thanks to gears he goes to 350 lbs i really dont think he has twice as effective liver

 

[mixedup]

Hi i used prohormones multiple times but not test. Superdroll 2 times , msten,halodrol,epistane but never test E so i dont know i am using 600mg just because i heared from doctor its safe dose so whats youre suggestion start at 500mg and then increase ? during cycle ?

I don't know what doctors you are talking to bit try is usually 200 to 300mg your cycle is way overkill

 

[ducho15]

its definnitely low dose for test only sure i have also superdroll but it wont be runned in full length of cycle. Guys use that big amount when they run 3 compunds. And i mean Dr. Rand he has some youtube videos someone is making with him asking questions etc. Look him up its worth it.

 

[Chados]

its definnitely low dose for test only sure i have also superdroll but it wont be runned in full length of cycle. Guys use that big amount when they run 3 compunds. And i mean Dr. Rand he has some youtube videos someone is making with him asking questions etc. Look him up its worth it.

Hey not trying to be rude but at what point did you read superdroll on a bottle? It's superdrol.. If you see a superdroll you might wanna stay away

 

[ducho15]

what why ? i dot have any bottles i am getting this stuff from lab its pure SD not any clone with azine bond or ****. English isnt my main language so there may be some mistakes in my posts. But thank you man these days i would not buy any PH in bottle its overprices underdosed and you dont know what it really is. I have my suplier my friends used even before for years so we know everything is pure from this lab plus SD is one of the cheapest yet strongest compounds