Well judging by the fact this guy has been around since 2005 and his posting history indicates to me he is very switched on. I am amazed he has been so reserved and held his cool with you.
Your responses haven’t proven anything (nothing with science is ever really “proven”), you have made a few observations from what you have seen and read, cool. Doesn’t mean its right or even relevant to what he was saying for that matter.
Beta-agonists are one of the most used(abused) compounds in the sporting world, why do you think soo many athletes have “asthma”.. because their performance enhancing effects are undeniable, im not gonna use the word proven but you get the point, im sure.
Irrespective of the potential anti-catabolic properties of which are shown in humans, albeit in disease populations afaik with clen (
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3263717/), the performance enhancing effect during the initial stages of this pct allowing you to maintain volume and intensity is huge when it comes to maintaining your gains while you restore endocrine homeostasis.
Anyways feel free to give me flak like you have with this other guy. Happy to go toe to toe with you.