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How dangerous is tren to your health? im looking at some orals and I want to get a 2nd opinion on the risks it posses.
 
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It’s basically poison. Take that for what it’s worth. But we consume poisons regularly so....

Dose , duration, and individual common sense are the determining factors that answer those questions.
 
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Thanks probably won't even touch that stuff. Hearing of how toxic it is makes me already feel like death.
 
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Thanks probably won't even touch that stuff. Hearing of how toxic it is makes me already feel like death.
My tren days are over. Shiit works, but I’m getting too old to deal with all that.
 
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It is great at what it does. It literally can f*** up your brain chemistry. Make you feel like a completely different person.
 

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Im taking an epi & trenavol stack at the moment and am in my second week. Tren dosed at 90mg a day, epi got upped to 40mg this week. So far no sides at all. It basically is going to come down to support and dosage like the poster above said.
 
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Is it the rage? Or just in general?
Expanding on what Dma378 said, Trenbolone is an amazingly powerful drug in both anabolic effects and risks/side effects. Health markers all tend to take a significant hit on Tren. It is definitely not a hormone for beginners or even those who aren’t in very good physical and mental health.
 
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Tren is rarely necessary for any sort of goal in mind except bodybuilding contests. Even then, proper diligence & other less toxic hardening agents can get the job done.

But when it comes to energy, strength, fat loss & muscle accrual, it’s hard to compete with it. I like the drive and energy associated with it the most.

It also doesn’t take much to enjoy its benefits. 50mg EOD of Tren Ace for 8 weeks is still incredibly productive combined with Test & Mast Prop. So from that perspective, it ain’t all that bad.

Four things I’d be overkill about while taking Tren though:

1) Blood Pressure
a) use ACE-II Inhibitors, CoQ10 & Garlic

2) Blood thinners
a) Nattokinase @ 200mg/daily
b) Baby Aspirin
c) 3-5g Fish Oils daily

3) Vessel pliability
a) Garlic + Horse Chestnut extract, Vit K2 and anything that has some clinical support for heart health and vessel wall pliability & health. You want flexible, leak-proof vessel walls b/c Tren will cause hardening and cracking.

4) Kidney support - dump the kitchen sink at this one and drink plenty of water throughout the day. I like “Kidney Stuff” and Astragalus.
 

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Got it. What is your on cycle support?
I use cycle assist, as well as a ton of natural sups like milk thistle 2000mg day, L-arganine and hawthorne berry 500mg each, an added liver supporr tincture, cranberry supplement 100mg daily. Eat very clean, lots of protien intake.

Post cycle i have always used clomid, atd or 6 bromo, and a couple other things that help me keep as much gains possible and ease me back into natural body production. It took me a lot of reading amd searching to find what worked best for me. But just becauseit works for me doeant mean it will for you, as everyones genetics are different. Either way make sure you do your homework and are 100% set up with everything before starting your cycle.
 
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Also makes me too creepy for my own liking. And that’s pretty fuking creepy. No chick in spandex or yoga pants is safe
 

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Tren is rarely necessary for any sort of goal in mind except bodybuilding contests. Even then, proper diligence & other less toxic hardening agents can get the job done.

But when it comes to energy, strength, fat loss & muscle accrual, it’s hard to compete with it. I like the drive and energy associated with it the most.

It also doesn’t take much to enjoy its benefits. 50mg EOD of Tren Ace for 8 weeks is still incredibly productive combined with Test & Mast Prop. So from that perspective, it ain’t all that bad.

Four things I’d be overkill about while taking Tren though:

1) Blood Pressure
a) use ACE-II Inhibitors, CoQ10 & Garlic

2) Blood thinners
a) Nattokinase @ 200mg/daily
b) Baby Aspirin
c) 3-5g Fish Oils daily

3) Vessel pliability
a) Garlic + Horse Chestnut extract, Vit K2 and anything that has some clinical support for heart health and vessel wall pliability & health. You want flexible, leak-proof vessel walls b/c Tren will cause hardening and cracking.

4) Kidney support - dump the kitchen sink at this one and drink plenty of water throughout the day. I like “Kidney Stuff” and Astragalus.
Dude i love garlic amd horse chestnut! Stuff is legit man.
 
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Tren is rarely necessary for any sort of goal in mind except bodybuilding contests. Even then, proper diligence & other less toxic hardening agents can get the job done.

But when it comes to energy, strength, fat loss & muscle accrual, it’s hard to compete with it. I like the drive and energy associated with it the most.

It also doesn’t take much to enjoy its benefits. 50mg EOD of Tren Ace for 8 weeks is still incredibly productive combined with Test & Mast Prop. So from that perspective, it ain’t all that bad.

Four things I’d be overkill about while taking Tren though:

1) Blood Pressure
a) use ACE-II Inhibitors, CoQ10 & Garlic

2) Blood thinners
a) Nattokinase @ 200mg/daily
b) Baby Aspirin
c) 3-5g Fish Oils daily

3) Vessel pliability
a) Garlic + Horse Chestnut extract, Vit K2 and anything that has some clinical support for heart health and vessel wall pliability & health. You want flexible, leak-proof vessel walls b/c Tren will cause hardening and cracking.

4) Kidney support - dump the kitchen sink at this one and drink plenty of water throughout the day. I like “Kidney Stuff” and Astragalus.
IIRC beta blockers work well and may allow for beta receptor ancillaries like clenbutrrol to be effective.

Nattokinase works well and blood work to show it.

Low test is key to success...tren needs no help.
 

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Also makes me too creepy for my own liking. And that’s pretty fuking creepy. No chick in spandex or yoga pants is safe
Amen brother. Real AAS old school Tren makes me into a complete sex addict. I beat my meat like it stole my wallet..after wifey can't take anymore. No joke
 
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Amen brother. Real AAS old school Tren makes me into a complete sex addict. I beat my meat like it stole my wallet..after wifey can't take anymore. No joke
Lol right!! I love and hate it.
 
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I’ve been intrigued by it but I hate any and all side effects
 
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IIRC beta blockers work well and may allow for beta receptor ancillaries like clenbutrrol to be effective.

Nattokinase works well and blood work to show it.

Low test is key to success...tren needs no help.
I agree 100%. Beta blockers are something I personally use but because ACE-II’s actually help Kidney function while reducing BP, I usually recommend it first.

However, I did not know that it enhanced Beta receptors fat burners. I would have thought the opposite, but now that I think about it, going from clen for a few days to beta blockers for a few days might refresh the receptors. I know I have taken beta blockers when I accidentally overdosed fat burners in order to slow my heart rate down and lower my BP.
 
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I agree 100%. Beta blockers are something I personally use but because ACE-II’s actually help Kidney function while reducing BP, I usually recommend it first.

However, I did not know that it enhanced Beta receptors fat burners. I would have thought the opposite, but now that I think about it, going from clen for a few days to beta blockers for a few days might refresh the receptors. I know I have taken beta blockers when I accidentally overdosed fat burners in order to slow my heart rate down and lower my BP.
^^^^
And i believe it 'selectively' produces the desired benefit without hindering 'adipose' receptor response. I don't have data in hand...
 
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I just finished up a tren run. 300mg Test 3, 437.5mg Tren A and 350 mg of a Stano-Mast mix for 8 weeks. I loved it. I'm diagnosed ADD/bipolar so I'm on Prozac, Abilify, and Adderrall so luckily for me, I didn't notice any real changes with attitude on Tren. I actually felt great, happy, motivated the entire time, however, I can't stress enough that that's primarily due to the fact of the medications/mood stabilizers I'm on. I've definitely heard horror stories from Tren changing people's brain, making them completely aggressive, etc.... but as mentioned, these are certainly the risks one takes.

I took plenty of on cycle support, Cialis for BP, also took garlic, EPA/Fish oils, definitely TUDCA, and NAC for liver.

My tren run was my favorite run thus far. Lost tons of fat, gained muscle, set PR's and just felt good overall. With that said though, I definitely partook in my fair share of orals and other gear before attempting it and learned a lot along the way about E2 control, BP Support, liver support, and overall body health.
 
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GW off sets a lot of sides.
No huffin and puffin
 

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Makes me go right for the brown eye.
Hahaha dude that is so hilarious! Especially given the fact im on tren and went for the wifes brown eye last night lol. Swear to god
 
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Hahaha dude that is so hilarious! Especially given the fact im on tren and went for the wifes brown eye last night lol. Swear to god
Turns me into a horn dog.
Makes me a real perv.
The old lady loves it.
Spices things up for 8 weeks.
But when I came off I was desensitized.
Wasn't a interested in sex really for a month.
Still could perform......just wasn't that into it
Prami and 7 alpha from PRE is what I use now for freak night
 
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Lithium orotate is great for mood issues.
Lithium was one of the many meds they tried before I found my above mentioned combo....it sent me to outer space after only 5 days. I've never felt so bad on something before, so that particular one did not work for me.
 
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Lithium was one of the many meds they tried before I found my above mentioned combo....it sent me to outer space after only 5 days. I've never felt so bad on something before, so that particular one did not work for me.
for me the LO served as a de-irritant.
 
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What’s most worrying about tren is it’s link to Alzheimer’s
 
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A trenbolone study linking it to Alzheimer's? Post it.
 
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Tren increases a type of protein in the brain called beta amaloid 42 which causes Alzheimer’s. I can’t find the study but Jerry Brainum has an interesting video on YouTube about it. Just type Jerry brainum tren Alzheimer’s
 
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We’re indoctrinated at a young age to not violate women (I mean that word in an appropriate manner - not referring to ANY form of rape when I say that) and b/c most women have no idea what men are like and what we desire and think about from time to time, it makes things even more awkward when she first learns about a fetish or fantasy. The first time they discover this side of their man they are always taken back about it. I’m talking about the ignorant women, which makes up the majority of them these days. Older women are more likely to have a clue but that all depends on their life experiences.

But discussing the use of Tren, I’d love to take 15mg of MENT with it. Maybe:

25mg Tren-A
15mg MENT
25mg Test-P
50mg Mast-P

Wowzer! Would be intense sexual prowessin’ goin’ on.

Also, I just dare any of you to take some Phenibut, maybe 1-1.5g, a few hours prior to bedtime. When you wake up in the middle of the night, your desire for that warm curvy thing next to you is uber intense.

Give it a try. Women can also take Phenibut for sexual intensity and arousal.
 
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That song is very appropriately creepy lol

Can’t wait to use this term on my wife. Going to sell it hard.
at 52yo
acting on my deviant tendencies is the most humiliating and self denegrating thing i can do to and with myself. Im impotent (figuratively) and a selfish and poor performer...a monster...predator...he's not welcome.

In the sanctity of my marriage bed my bride is everything i need. After 20 years with her I am a rock star! More importantly the fulfillment and gratification from our intimacy is far better than ths physical...and that's thru the roof.

Deviancy never ever ever satisfies...

Edit: yes, very appropriately creepy...I know ;)
 
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acting on my deviant tendencies is the most humiliating and self denegrating thing i can do to and with myself. Im impotent (figuratively) and a selfish and poor performer...a monster...predator...he's not welcome.

In the sanctity of my marriage bed my bride is everything i need. After 20 years with her I am a rock star! More importantly the fulfillment and gratification from our intimacy is far better than ths physical...and that's thru the roof.

Deviancy never ever ever satisfies...

Edit: yes, very appropriately creepy...I know ;)
Completely agree.

Which is why I stated in my first (semi) sarcastic post, that tren makes me into something I don’t even like anymore.

Nothing wrong with a little primal lust on the wifey. But the gym creep is not who I want to be lol.

Also cannot deny the other behavioral changes that take place when I’m on tren. None are worth the reward in the slightest.

I had my time with it. But also learned my lesson from it.
 

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Completely agree.

Which is why I stated in my first (semi) sarcastic post, that tren makes me into something I don’t even like anymore.

Nothing wrong with a little primal lust on the wifey. But the gym creep is not who I want to be lol.

Also cannot deny the other behavioral changes that take place when I’m on tren. None are worth the reward in the slightest.

I had my time with it. But also learned my lesson from it.
I'll have to say this ,after 5 cycles of different anabolics I can tell y'all that it changed me and I'm def not the same person anymore. it will change your personality.
 

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Dma378 I appreciate your posts.

I really want to give tren a run but when I blast I feel exactly how you describe about a woman in yoga pants lol!! Plus I can get a bit edgy, idk if I could handle it.

Also sitting on some deca. I'm totally afraid of deca d1ck. So it's test and superdrol for me.
 
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Dma378 I appreciate your posts.

I really want to give tren a run but when I blast I feel exactly how you describe about a woman in yoga pants lol!! Plus I can get a bit edgy, idk if I could handle it.

Also sitting on some deca. I'm totally afraid of deca d1ck. So it's test and superdrol for me.
P rami or Caber is how u offset prolactin sexual sides
2/1 test deca ratio.
Absolutely no reason to have devs dick
 
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You have the ability to control your thoughts if you chose to.

Ive been and have lead this study. Great insight knowledge and tools.



I have the study material if anyone wants it.

I see yoga pants...for a second...some mans daughter...my daughter...Gods daughter...
 
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So for a tren run, to minimize sides, would it be higher test low tren or higher tren low test?
 
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I never go over 200mg test, always masteron up to 400mg, no more than 350mg/wk tren A, .5mg caber 2x/w, 12.5mg exemest E3D...
 

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Married 18 years I think? Almost half my life.

I have never touched another woman. Just a perv I guess.
 
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We’re indoctrinated at a young age to not violate women (I mean that word in an appropriate manner - not referring to ANY form of rape when I say that) and b/c most women have no idea what men are like and what we desire and think about from time to time, it makes things even more awkward when she first learns about a fetish or fantasy. The first time they discover this side of their man they are always taken back about it. I’m talking about the ignorant women, which makes up the majority of them these days. Older women are more likely to have a clue but that all depends on their life experiences.

But discussing the use of Tren, I’d love to take 15mg of MENT with it. Maybe:

25mg Tren-A
15mg MENT
25mg Test-P
50mg Mast-P

Wowzer! Would be intense sexual prowessin’ goin’ on.

Also, I just dare any of you to take some Phenibut, maybe 1-1.5g, a few hours prior to bedtime. When you wake up in the middle of the night, your desire for that warm curvy thing next to you is uber intense.

Give it a try. Women can also take Phenibut for sexual intensity and arousal .
Dude I've been wanting to try that cycle for over a year now! Have had it ready and waiting but a couple injuries have prevented me from running it yet!

Also, appropriately timed phenibut dosing has me having back to back orgasms with no refractory period. Good stuff.
 

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Dude I've been wanting to try that cycle for over a year now! Have had it ready and waiting but a couple injuries have prevented me from running it yet!

Also, appropriately timed phenibut dosing has me having back to back orgasms with no refractory period. Good stuff.
and how is that? dosage and timing
 
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How dangerous is tren to your health? im looking at some orals and I want to get a 2nd opinion on the risks it posses.
I would say its less harmful then running an oral cycle...

But Tren has a lot of sides.

It's funny to me how loosely its thrown around in convos... And how Instagram celebrities say "take tren and all your dreams will come true..."

"Nectar of the gods" and so on.

Tren should be incorporated in maybe 3rd or 4th cycle. Deff not a beginner or even intermediate roid.

You can't just jump on the bike and ride. Need those training wheels.

TLDR: TREN ****S WITH YOUR HEAD. It is also a rough ride. Side effects!!!!
 

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