GaryG
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Before I found this site I got a lot of my SARM info on r/PEDs. Turns out there was and still is a lot of doubt and outright hatred of SARMs there. Granted, there are a lot of people asking the same question over and over about LGD doses and cycle length...
...But there is a lot of DYEL shaming going on as well. Posters are saying all the good LGD reports are from novice level lifters who get to intermediate and swear up and down it's because of SARMs.
Meanwhile I'd posted the results of my first six-week cycle with the same pics I'd posted here. My lifts were mid to high intermediate when I started, but my squat and deadlift soared past the advanced mark even as I went up a weight class while my lagging bench finally got close to the advanced level (according to the much misused Starting Strength levels).
I am midway through my second cycle and my lifts are starting to take off again. An advanced raw three-lift total for the 198 class is 1140. This is not a competitive level for strength athletes. In fact it's only around a Class 1 or 2 level lifter. But we have to assume the Master and Elite levels are some combination of superb genetic fitness for the sport and steroid usage.
My raw total (belt only and with a paused bench) was an estimated 980 @ 175 when I started taking LGD. Six weeks later it was roughly 1130 @ 188. One poster chalked that gain up to a "first successful" bulk...even though I've already bulked up from 125 as a younger man and have been in decline as I am just a few months away from being a "master" lifter.
Three weeks into my second six-week cycle I am still weighing 185-188...but it looks like even though I'm not bulking up anymore in terms of gross weight, I am indeed successfully recomping. I'm stronger at this weight than I was a few weeks ago. So my almost-40 body is still adding muscle while droppping fat. My lifts continue to climb and my projected three-lift total is alread up 40 lbs to 1170 at the same bodyweight.
Yet none of this is good enough for the doubters. I think maybe I have to get to the elite level (over 1400 while still in the 198) for any of them to admit that MAYBE the LGD has some positive effect. I know I shouldn't be this frustrated and that I should just be thankful that I'm making improvements. It's just that I've added 200 lbs to my total in just ten weeks to become my strongest ever, even as my body falls into the hormonal gorge of middle age. Yet my lifts still aren't good enough and I'm delusional about SARM effectiveness to boot.
Ugh.
Does anyone else run into this kind of thing?
...But there is a lot of DYEL shaming going on as well. Posters are saying all the good LGD reports are from novice level lifters who get to intermediate and swear up and down it's because of SARMs.
Meanwhile I'd posted the results of my first six-week cycle with the same pics I'd posted here. My lifts were mid to high intermediate when I started, but my squat and deadlift soared past the advanced mark even as I went up a weight class while my lagging bench finally got close to the advanced level (according to the much misused Starting Strength levels).
I am midway through my second cycle and my lifts are starting to take off again. An advanced raw three-lift total for the 198 class is 1140. This is not a competitive level for strength athletes. In fact it's only around a Class 1 or 2 level lifter. But we have to assume the Master and Elite levels are some combination of superb genetic fitness for the sport and steroid usage.
My raw total (belt only and with a paused bench) was an estimated 980 @ 175 when I started taking LGD. Six weeks later it was roughly 1130 @ 188. One poster chalked that gain up to a "first successful" bulk...even though I've already bulked up from 125 as a younger man and have been in decline as I am just a few months away from being a "master" lifter.
Three weeks into my second six-week cycle I am still weighing 185-188...but it looks like even though I'm not bulking up anymore in terms of gross weight, I am indeed successfully recomping. I'm stronger at this weight than I was a few weeks ago. So my almost-40 body is still adding muscle while droppping fat. My lifts continue to climb and my projected three-lift total is alread up 40 lbs to 1170 at the same bodyweight.
Yet none of this is good enough for the doubters. I think maybe I have to get to the elite level (over 1400 while still in the 198) for any of them to admit that MAYBE the LGD has some positive effect. I know I shouldn't be this frustrated and that I should just be thankful that I'm making improvements. It's just that I've added 200 lbs to my total in just ten weeks to become my strongest ever, even as my body falls into the hormonal gorge of middle age. Yet my lifts still aren't good enough and I'm delusional about SARM effectiveness to boot.
Ugh.
Does anyone else run into this kind of thing?
