Something light on the hpta

[Kickstart7]

I Know dealing with all unnatural anabolics will mess with test levels but at all different degrees. I'm looking to do a big cycle in the summer but I also want a nice strength booster/bulk in the winter.

Bottom line is I'm looking for something a bit easier on the hpta. I was thinking a lean bulk with ostarine at 25 mg for 8 weeks. I know I will still get suppressed but I know it's a bit easier on the body than most DS if not all. Any advice would be appreciated fellas! Thanks

I'm 21 and have on cycle under my belt (halo x). It went well and recovered well.

 

[heavylifter33]

What's an un natural anabolic??

Here's a nice chart i've had saved it will give you an idea of how strong certain things are by a scale that i don't particularly care for. I'll tell you why shortly.

Compound:------------------------------Androgenic------Anabolic




1-Testosterone--------------------------100------200
Anabolicum Vister(Quinbolone)(oral Boldenone)--50------100
Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)-------------45------320
Anadur(Nandrolone Hexyloxyphenylpropionate)--37-----125
Anatrofin(Stenbolone Acetate)---------107-144-----267-332
Anavar(Oxandrolone)-------------------24------322-630
Andractim(Dihydrotestosteron)--------30-260-----60-220
Andriol(Testosterone Undecanoate)----100------100
Androderm(Testosterone)---------------100------100
Androgel(Testosterone)------------------100------100
Boldabol(Boldenone Acetate)------------50------100
Cheque Drops(Mibolerone)--------------1,800------4,100
Danocrine(Danazol)----------------------37------125
Deca-Durabolin(Nandrolone Decanoate)--37------125
Deposterona(Testosterone Blend)-------100------100
Dianabol(Methandrostenolone)-----------40-60------90-210
Dimethyltrienolone------------------------10,000+-----10,000+
Dinandrol(Nandrolone Blend)------------37------125
Durabolin(NPP)----------------------------37------125
Dynabol(Nandrolone Cypionate)---------37------125
Equipoise(Boldenone Undecylenate)-----50------100
Esiclene(Formebolone)-------------------No Data Available
Genabol(Norbolethone)-------------------17------350
Halotestin(Fluoxymesterone)------------850------1,900
Hydroxytestosterone---------------------25------65
Laurabolin(Nandrolone Laurate)---------37------125
Madol(Desoxymethyltestosterone )------187------1,200
Masteron(Drostanolone Propionate)-----25-40------62-130
Megagrisevit-Mono(Clostebol Acetate)--25------46
MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)-------650------2,300
Mestanolone--------------------------------78-254------107
Methandriol(Mythelandrostenedi ol)-------30-60------20-60
Methyl-1-Testosterone---------------------100-220------910-1,600
Methyldienolone----------------------------200-300------1,000
Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN)----------281------1304
Methyltestosterone-------------------------94-130------115-150
Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)-------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000
Miotolan(Furazabol)-------------------------73-94------270-330
Myagen(Bolasterone)-----------------------300------575
Nilevar(Norethandrolone)------------------22-55------100-200
Omnadren(Testosterone Blend)-----------100------100
Orabolin(Ethylestrenol)--------------------20-400------200-400
Oral Turinabol------------------------------None------100+
Oranabol(Oxymesterone)------------------50------330
Orgasteron(Normethandrolone)-----------325-580------110-125
Parabolan(Tren Hexahydrobenzycarbonate)-500------500
Primobolan(Methenolone Acetate)----------44-57------88
Primobolan Depot(Methenolone Enanthate)-44-57------88
Prostanozol------------------------------------n/a------n/a
Protabol(Thiomesterone)--------------------61------456
Proviron(Mesterolone)-----------------------30-40------100-150
Sanabolicum(Nandrolone Cyclohexylpropionate)-37------125
Steranabol Ritardo(Oxabolone Cypionate)--20-60------50-90
Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone)-------------400------20
Sustanon 100 & 250--------------------------100------100
Synovex(Testosterone Propionate & Estradiol)-100------100
Test 400---------------------------------------100------100
Test Enanthate/Cypionate/Propionate/Susp & Blends-100------100
THG(Tetrahydrogestrinone)-------------------No Data Available
Tren Acetate/Enanthate & Blends------------500------500
Winstrol(Stanozolol)---------------------------30------320

Anabolic:Androgenic ratios are based off prostate growth vs the levator ani muscle in the rat model. It's great to have this data, but it would be better served if it was an assay on skeletal muscle. Anyways. Some will argue these ratios are useless, some will simply argue they are decent "predictors" ... i'm in the camp that sees them as decent predictors.

This list isn't super up to date on some of the new designer Pro Steroids or Steroids on the market. My advice would be to run a low-ish dose of promag or h-drol. HPTA suppression will be mild and it's easy to recover from.

 

[Kickstart7]

What's an un natural anabolic?? Here's a nice chart i've had saved it will give you an idea of how strong certain things are by a scale that i don't particularly care for. I'll tell you why shortly. Compound:------------------------------Androgenic------Anabolic 1-Testosterone--------------------------100------200 Anabolicum Vister(Quinbolone)(oral Boldenone)--50------100 Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)-------------45------320 Anadur(Nandrolone Hexyloxyphenylpropionate)--37-----125 Anatrofin(Stenbolone Acetate)---------107-144-----267-332 Anavar(Oxandrolone)-------------------24------322-630 Andractim(Dihydrotestosteron)--------30-260-----60-220 Andriol(Testosterone Undecanoate)----100------100 Androderm(Testosterone)---------------100------100 Androgel(Testosterone)------------------100------100 Boldabol(Boldenone Acetate)------------50------100 Cheque Drops(Mibolerone)--------------1,800------4,100 Danocrine(Danazol)----------------------37------125 Deca-Durabolin(Nandrolone Decanoate)--37------125 Deposterona(Testosterone Blend)-------100------100 Dianabol(Methandrostenolone)-----------40-60------90-210 Dimethyltrienolone------------------------10,000+-----10,000+ Dinandrol(Nandrolone Blend)------------37------125 Durabolin(NPP)----------------------------37------125 Dynabol(Nandrolone Cypionate)---------37------125 Equipoise(Boldenone Undecylenate)-----50------100 Esiclene(Formebolone)-------------------No Data Available Genabol(Norbolethone)-------------------17------350 Halotestin(Fluoxymesterone)------------850------1,900 Hydroxytestosterone---------------------25------65 Laurabolin(Nandrolone Laurate)---------37------125 Madol(Desoxymethyltestosterone )------187------1,200 Masteron(Drostanolone Propionate)-----25-40------62-130 Megagrisevit-Mono(Clostebol Acetate)--25------46 MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)-------650------2,300 Mestanolone--------------------------------78-254------107 Methandriol(Mythelandrostenedi ol)-------30-60------20-60 Methyl-1-Testosterone---------------------100-220------910-1,600 Methyldienolone----------------------------200-300------1,000 Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN)----------281------1304 Methyltestosterone-------------------------94-130------115-150 Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)-------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000 Miotolan(Furazabol)-------------------------73-94------270-330 Myagen(Bolasterone)-----------------------300------575 Nilevar(Norethandrolone)------------------22-55------100-200 Omnadren(Testosterone Blend)-----------100------100 Orabolin(Ethylestrenol)--------------------20-400------200-400 Oral Turinabol------------------------------None------100+ Oranabol(Oxymesterone)------------------50------330 Orgasteron(Normethandrolone)-----------325-580------110-125 Parabolan(Tren Hexahydrobenzycarbonate)-500------500 Primobolan(Methenolone Acetate)----------44-57------88 Primobolan Depot(Methenolone Enanthate)-44-57------88 Prostanozol------------------------------------n/a------n/a Protabol(Thiomesterone)--------------------61------456 Proviron(Mesterolone)-----------------------30-40------100-150 Sanabolicum(Nandrolone Cyclohexylpropionate)-37------125 Steranabol Ritardo(Oxabolone Cypionate)--20-60------50-90 Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone)-------------400------20 Sustanon 100 & 250--------------------------100------100 Synovex(Testosterone Propionate & Estradiol)-100------100 Test 400---------------------------------------100------100 Test Enanthate/Cypionate/Propionate/Susp & Blends-100------100 THG(Tetrahydrogestrinone)-------------------No Data Available Tren Acetate/Enanthate & Blends------------500------500 Winstrol(Stanozolol)---------------------------30------320 Anabolic:Androgenic ratios are based off prostate growth vs the levator ani muscle in the rat model. It's great to have this data, but it would be better served if it was an assay on skeletal muscle. Anyways. Some will argue these ratios are useless, some will simply argue they are decent "predictors" ... i'm in the camp that sees them as decent predictors. This list isn't super up to date on some of the new designer Pro Steroids or Steroids on the market. My advice would be to run a low-ish dose of promag or h-drol. HPTA suppression will be mild and it's easy to recover from.

thank you man! Would a low dose of pmag yield better results than a 25 mg of osta? I plan on a DMZ cycle for the summer time and I know it's a potent compound so I don't wanna put a lot of stress on my body until then.

 

[reps4jesus]

thank you man! Would a low dose of pmag yield better results than a 25 mg of osta? I plan on a DMZ cycle for the summer time and I know it's a potent compound so I don't wanna put a lot of stress on my body until then.

You have the time to run pretty much anything that you want imo. I personally would do anadrol 50mg for 6 weeks and call it a day

 

[heavylifter33]

You have the time to run pretty much anything that you want imo. I personally would do anadrol 50mg for 6 weeks and call it a day

LOL well that's what you or i would do sure But i'd stack it with Var and Winstrol!

 

[Kickstart7]

You have the time to run pretty much anything that you want imo. I personally would do anadrol 50mg for 6 weeks and call it a day

Anadrol -_- dear god man..

 

[reps4jesus]

LOL well that's what you or i would do sure But i'd stack it with Var and Winstrol!

You know It lol
Im gonna pick up some anadrol in the next couple days for a future test/tren/anadrol cycle. Im on test/tren now though. That would be fun with drol, aas is the way to go.

 

[reps4jesus]

Anadrol -_- dear god man..

Its as toxic as taking ibuprofen everyday. Drink water, take some liv52 and cycle assist, blow up for 6 weeks, and pct. Dont over think this stuff kick start, and dont waste your time.

 

[heavylifter33]

Agreed. Anadrol is blown way out of proportion. Yes it's strong, but it's God's gift to oral steroids like Tren is to injectibles. Cycle Assist, lots of water, no alcohol, and some extra SAMe if you want some extra protection. Have fun in gains city. There's nothing else like anadrol, i notice effects after 48 hours. No joke.

 

[reps4jesus]

Agreed. Anadrol is blown way out of proportion. Yes it's strong, but it's God's gift to oral steroids like Tren is to injectibles. Cycle Assist, lots of water, no alcohol, and some extra SAMe if you want some extra protection. Have fun in gains city. There's nothing else like anadrol, i notice effects after 48 hours. No joke.

Anadrol isnt bad, abombs sounds harsh but in reality, I dont think its even close to the level of halotestin, and cheque drops, but gains are still amazing.

 

[Kickstart7]

I'll look into it! Seems promising from what I've read

 

[Kickstart7]

I'm looking into Anadrol and DMZ , not sure which I wanna run now! My mind changes every day -_-

 

[Kickstart7]

Just a note: I've decided if I go with a cycle during the summer I'll give myself enough recovery time to do so assuming things return to normal .

 

[Goliath1]

What's an un natural anabolic?? Here's a nice chart i've had saved it will give you an idea of how strong certain things are by a scale that i don't particularly care for. I'll tell you why shortly. Compound:------------------------------Androgenic------Anabolic 1-Testosterone--------------------------100------200 Anabolicum Vister(Quinbolone)(oral Boldenone)--50------100 Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)-------------45------320 Anadur(Nandrolone Hexyloxyphenylpropionate)--37-----125 Anatrofin(Stenbolone Acetate)---------107-144-----267-332 Anavar(Oxandrolone)-------------------24------322-630 Andractim(Dihydrotestosteron)--------30-260-----60-220 Andriol(Testosterone Undecanoate)----100------100 Androderm(Testosterone)---------------100------100 Androgel(Testosterone)------------------100------100 Boldabol(Boldenone Acetate)------------50------100 Cheque Drops(Mibolerone)--------------1,800------4,100 Danocrine(Danazol)----------------------37------125 Deca-Durabolin(Nandrolone Decanoate)--37------125 Deposterona(Testosterone Blend)-------100------100 Dianabol(Methandrostenolone)-----------40-60------90-210 Dimethyltrienolone------------------------10,000+-----10,000+ Dinandrol(Nandrolone Blend)------------37------125 Durabolin(NPP)----------------------------37------125 Dynabol(Nandrolone Cypionate)---------37------125 Equipoise(Boldenone Undecylenate)-----50------100 Esiclene(Formebolone)-------------------No Data Available Genabol(Norbolethone)-------------------17------350 Halotestin(Fluoxymesterone)------------850------1,900 Hydroxytestosterone---------------------25------65 Laurabolin(Nandrolone Laurate)---------37------125 Madol(Desoxymethyltestosterone )------187------1,200 Masteron(Drostanolone Propionate)-----25-40------62-130 Megagrisevit-Mono(Clostebol Acetate)--25------46 MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)-------650------2,300 Mestanolone--------------------------------78-254------107 Methandriol(Mythelandrostenedi ol)-------30-60------20-60 Methyl-1-Testosterone---------------------100-220------910-1,600 Methyldienolone----------------------------200-300------1,000 Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN)----------281------1304 Methyltestosterone-------------------------94-130------115-150 Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)-------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000 Miotolan(Furazabol)-------------------------73-94------270-330 Myagen(Bolasterone)-----------------------300------575 Nilevar(Norethandrolone)------------------22-55------100-200 Omnadren(Testosterone Blend)-----------100------100 Orabolin(Ethylestrenol)--------------------20-400------200-400 Oral Turinabol------------------------------None------100+ Oranabol(Oxymesterone)------------------50------330 Orgasteron(Normethandrolone)-----------325-580------110-125 Parabolan(Tren Hexahydrobenzycarbonate)-500------500 Primobolan(Methenolone Acetate)----------44-57------88 Primobolan Depot(Methenolone Enanthate)-44-57------88 Prostanozol------------------------------------n/a------n/a Protabol(Thiomesterone)--------------------61------456 Proviron(Mesterolone)-----------------------30-40------100-150 Sanabolicum(Nandrolone Cyclohexylpropionate)-37------125 Steranabol Ritardo(Oxabolone Cypionate)--20-60------50-90 Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone)-------------400------20 Sustanon 100 & 250--------------------------100------100 Synovex(Testosterone Propionate & Estradiol)-100------100 Test 400---------------------------------------100------100 Test Enanthate/Cypionate/Propionate/Susp & Blends-100------100 THG(Tetrahydrogestrinone)-------------------No Data Available Tren Acetate/Enanthate & Blends------------500------500 Winstrol(Stanozolol)---------------------------30------320 Anabolic:Androgenic ratios are based off prostate growth vs the levator ani muscle in the rat model. It's great to have this data, but it would be better served if it was an assay on skeletal muscle. Anyways. Some will argue these ratios are useless, some will simply argue they are decent "predictors" ... i'm in the camp that sees them as decent predictors. This list isn't super up to date on some of the new designer Pro Steroids or Steroids on the market. My advice would be to run a low-ish dose of promag or h-drol. HPTA suppression will be mild and it's easy to recover from.

I'll say thanks for sharing this..
"Thanked"

 

[Kickstart7]

From the experienced how maintainable are gains from Anadrol vs. DMZ or dbol.

It'd seem like DMZ would be most sustainable but then again I'm not that experienced. Any help from some experienced users?!

 

[reps4jesus]

From the experienced how maintainable are gains from Anadrol vs. DMZ or dbol.

It'd seem like DMZ would be most sustainable but then again I'm not that experienced. Any help from some experienced users?!

Thats person to person. I dont see why youd keep more dmz gains than Anadrol. That doesnt really make sense. Gains from steroids are gains from steroids lol

 

[Kickstart7]

Thats person to person. I dont see why youd keep more dmz gains than Anadrol. That doesnt really make sense. Gains from steroids are gains from steroids lol

I apologize reps, just **** i admit I assumed! My interest is sparking for Anadrol

 

[sdroljunkie]

Superdrol will blow all of that!.. including your liver if your not careful.

 

[Kickstart7]

Superdrol will blow all of that!.. including your liver if your not careful.

Tudca might do the trick

 

[sdroljunkie]

Tudca might do the trick

Yep! The only liv proctection i believe for sd

 

[Kickstart7]

I can't find SD anywhere though so I counted it out

 

[Goliath1]

I can't find SD anywhere though so I counted it out

You don't need to jump to SD bro, save it for down the road.. I'd stick to DMZ as planned bro..

 

[Kickstart7]

You don't need to jump to SD bro, save it for down the road.. I'd stick to DMZ as planned bro..

alrighty I agree man! Might have to save Anadrol as well!

 

[Goliath1]

alrighty I agree man! Might have to save Anadrol as well!

There's plenty of time to try them all lol
If I run any more orals, I'll run the A-Bombs

 

[Kickstart7]

There's plenty of time to try them all lol If I run any more orals, I'll run the A-Bombs

yes! I want to use for a majority of my life. Not abuse but use from time to time! Worst fear is becoming sterile from use but that's about it .

 

[Goliath1]

yes! I want to use for a majority of my life. Not abuse but use from time to time! Worst fear is becoming sterile from use but that's about it .

You already know the right and the wrong way to cycle, so you'll be gtg if you do things right..

Take your time and look at it as a life long experience and not a race to be jacked tommorow ya know.. That's how I see it..

 

[Kickstart7]

You already know the right and the wrong way to cycle, so you'll be gtg if you do things right.. Take your time and look at it as a life long experience and not a race to be jacked tommorow ya know.. That's how I see it..

I agree Goliath . I want to stay healthy enough to use even so I'm with you on that!

 

[reps4jesus]

Comon goliath, its totally a race to be jacked tomorrow for us, at least you and I

 

[Viking23]

You already know the right and the wrong way to cycle, so you'll be gtg if you do things right..

Take your time and look at it as a life long experience and not a race to be jacked tommorow ya know.. That's how I see it..

Fact!! Very good advice right here. Aas is a marathon not a sprint. The journey is always more exciting then the end result. So why shorten the journey?
If you run the strongest compounds early in your cycling career then you have nothing to move on to other than higher doses which can jeopardize health. I rather start slow and be excited for every cycle because I am trying something new than to just use everything in the beginning. Rant over..

 

[Kickstart7]

Fact!! Very good advice right here. Aas is a marathon not a sprint. The journey is always more exciting then the end result. So why shorten the journey? If you run the strongest compounds early in your cycling career then you have nothing to move on to other than higher doses which can jeopardize health. I rather start slow and be excited for every cycle because I am trying something new than to just use everything in the beginning. Rant over..

good stuff right here!

 

[Dymethazine]

id say you cuold just run something like protodrol or mechabol for something ligh tnow and dymeth later on. both those compounds at 100mg or more are still fairly mild with very low sides and shutdown is not bad at all and they are dry feel godo compounds. dymeth is nice and strong and i would compare it to something like anadrol without the bloat really.

 

[reps4jesus]

id say you cuold just run something like protodrol or mechabol for something ligh tnow and dymeth later on. both those compounds at 100mg or more are still fairly mild with very low sides and shutdown is not bad at all and they are dry feel godo compounds. dymeth is nice and strong and i would compare it to something like anadrol without the bloat really.

Mecha and pmag aren't feel good compounds man. And they will both shut you down.

 

[Dymethazine]

Mecha and pmag aren't feel good compounds man. And they will both shut you down.

actually yes they are and i never mentioned p-mag. i said protodrol but p-mag isnt bad either. they are quite light on the hpta compared to other methyls/compounds. im no newb when it comes to this stuff. been around for many years.

 

[Goliath1]

Comon goliath, its totally a race to be jacked tomorrow for us, at least you and I

Lmao! My wife punched me this morning. I saw it in her face, she hit a rock! She said " I don't know why you keep doing this to yourself, your so hard" .... I said "You know you like it"...

Then she said "Yea" with a smirk and got hit with a double dose of the "D" lmao Gotta love the sides from Test..

 

[reps4jesus]

actually yes they are and i never mentioned p-mag. i said protodrol but p-mag isnt bad either. they are quite light on the hpta compared to other methyls/compounds. im no newb when it comes to this stuff. been around for many years.

They are feel good compounds? How so?
Show me the blood work that shows mecha less suppressive than any other methylated compound like epi, or anavar. Shut down is shutdown.

 

[reps4jesus]

Lmao! My wife punched me this morning. I saw it in her face, she hit a rock! She said " I don't know why you keep doing this to yourself, your so hard" .... I said "You know you like it"...

Then she said "Yea" with a smirk and got hit with a double dose of the "D" lmao Gotta love the sides from Test..

Lmao one of the best sides of test

 

[heavylifter33]

actually yes they are and i never mentioned p-mag. i said protodrol but p-mag isnt bad either. they are quite light on the hpta compared to other methyls/compounds. im no newb when it comes to this stuff. been around for many years.

Who are you? ?? ??

 

[Dymethazine]

They are feel good compounds? How so?
Show me the blood work that shows mecha less suppressive than any other methylated compound like epi, or anavar. Shut down is shutdown.

they dont make you feel like **** and can give a slight euphoria. i tried stanodrol and some mecha low dosed and euphoria was insane. protodrol users always say the same thing. there is a difference between suppression and shutdown and these compounds wont be the same as taking something like sd. thats usually much harder to bounce back from. some halodrol users have reported test in the doulbe or even singel digit range so tats why i wouldnt inlcude. i seen some bw from a couple compounds like these and they were just suppressed oncycle. these compounds are pretty light when it comes to shutdown and sides.

 

[Dymethazine]

Who are you? ?? ??

hey there. im no one . just a guy who taught about a million noobs and other users.

 

[Kickstart7]

I see so many complaints about mechabol being a non responder. I simply searched it on here and I saw that a lot of users claim it's a hit or miss. What do you think?

 

[Kickstart7]

Would tr1umph be a possibility? Is it any better than halo or epi for a bulk? I know I've bounced back and forth but still looking for something mild or maybe slightly above.

 

[Goliath1]

Would tr1umph be a possibility? Is it any better than halo or epi for a bulk? I know I've bounced back and forth but still looking for something mild or maybe slightly above.

What did you gain off halo? How much have you kept bro? Just curious

 

[Dymethazine]

I see so many complaints about mechabol being a non responder. I simply searched it on here and I saw that a lot of users claim it's a hit or miss. What do you think?

i dont think its really hit or miss. we use to have that alot with epi but sometimess its just the dose is not high enough. i could feel it a bit at just 50mg but 100mg will be much better. i stacked it with some stano at just 400mg and had euphoria that was outta this world.

 

[Kickstart7]

What did you gain off halo? How much have you kept bro? Just curious

kept about 7 pounds lean mass. Gained around 12 overall! But I play football so it's hard to keeps gains with such little time and so much physical activity!

 

[Kickstart7]

i dont think its really hit or miss. we use to have that alot with epi but sometimess its just the dose is not high enough. i could feel it a bit at just 50mg but 100mg will be much better. i stacked it with some stano at just 400mg and had euphoria that was outta this world.

considering this!

 

[Goliath1]

Epi at 100 and Stano at 400 is retarded

Maybe I read that wrong...

DMZ & Trest sounds better for you KickStart..
If you wanted to run Stano, by all means but run it at 1000 straight or better..

 

[Goliath1]

kept about 7 pounds lean mass. Gained around 12 overall! But I play football so it's hard to keeps gains with such little time and so much physical activity!

DMZ would be nice for foozeball
Give you enough aggression to plant someone and the strength to do it lol

 

[Viking23]

I see so many complaints about mechabol being a non responder. I simply searched it on here and I saw that a lot of users claim it's a hit or miss. What do you think?

I saw the same thing. However, pmag doesn't seem to have the same problem

 

[TGB1987]

OP you are young to be running steroids bro. Start off slow and do it right. You mentioned being sterile as a fear. There a lot of things to worry about. I see this type of stuff everyday. I deal with bodybuilders using all sorts of anabolics and other crazy drugs. I get to see how messed up their bloods are from years of use and abuse. I would advise a few things before getting too involved with steroids. One would be to get blood work to establish a baseline of where your natural testosterone level was before you got too deep in AAS. Stay on blood work at least. 2 -3 times a year to monitor health. You may want to go to a sperm bank if you are really concerned about having kids down the road. This doesn't happen to everyone but a good friend of mine is dealing with this and it is most likely because he started using steroids at the age of 18. He is now 29 and married with a wife that wants a child. He didn't think about that when he started. He doesn't and didn't abuse AAS but he is still considered sterile. I know others that have had kids while on cycle and have been in cycle for over. 15 yr straight. My suggestion is to run either ostarine from Olympus or IronMagLabs or a dimethazine product maybe from Olympus. The ostarine will give you pretty damn good gains considering the low amount of suppression. You could also try natural anabolics. Black Lion Research follidrone would be a good one. Another one that is supposed to be a game changer is the new iron forged nutrition natural anabolic that is supposed to be released in the next few weeks. Little info available but these guys are saying it is going to be the best to ever hit the market. Time will tell. We are offering a free bag of extras for the first 50 orders we get from AM members. If you order put that you are from AM in the order notes. Be safe bro. Like Goliath said it is more of a marathon than a sprint. Sprinting in the bodybuilding world will get you hurt.

 

[Kickstart7]

OP you are young to be running steroids bro. Start off slow and do it right. You mentioned being sterile as a fear. There a lot of things to worry about. I see this type of stuff everyday. I deal with bodybuilders using all sorts of anabolics and other crazy drugs. I get to see how messed up their bloods are from years of use and abuse. I would advise a few things before getting too involved with steroids. One would be to get blood work to establish a baseline of where your natural testosterone level was before you got too deep in AAS. Stay on blood work at least. 2 -3 times a year to monitor health. You may want to go to a sperm bank if you are really concerned about having kids down the road. This doesn't happen to everyone but a good friend of mine is dealing with this and it is most likely because he started using steroids at the age of 18. He is now 29 and married with a wife that wants a child. He didn't think about that when he started. He doesn't and didn't abuse AAS but he is still considered sterile. I know others that have had kids while on cycle and have been in cycle for over. 15 yr straight. My suggestion is to run either ostarine from Olympus or IronMagLabs or a dimethazine product maybe from Olympus. The ostarine will give you pretty damn good gains considering the low amount of suppression. You could also try natural anabolics. Black Lion Research follidrone would be a good one. Another one that is supposed to be a game changer is the new iron forged nutrition natural anabolic that is supposed to be released in the next few weeks. Little info available but these guys are saying it is going to be the best to ever hit the market. Time will tell. We are offering a free bag of extras for the first 50 orders we get from AM members. If you order put that you are from AM in the order notes. Be safe bro. Like Goliath said it is more of a marathon than a sprint. Sprinting in the bodybuilding world will get you hurt.

thanks for the advice man. A lot if guys on here have given me awesome advice. I did a halo cycle this summer and all went well this summer so I'm considering moving up to DMZ then giving my body time until next year to run another cycle!