lumps after msten cycle

[bigham]

So I took msten for 4 weeks and then took clomid 100/50/50/50. And I took all the support supplements etc. While on cycle I noticed a little bit of soreness in my nips which I thought was normal. I was also taking an ai while on cycle to combat that. The lumps have come back since then maybe 2 months later. So I got a bottle of nolvadren xt which is just the armistane suicide inhibitor with a couple other compounds to combat estrogen. Theyve gotten alot smaller and less sensitive. And arent noticeable at all unless you touch them. Should I invest in getting some nolva or letro? And which do you think is better and how should I dose this? (Never taken either). I appreciate any responses. And if I should get on nolva or letro could anyone PM me the best place to get the research chem. Thanks

 

[bigham]

Also the msten was dosed 12 mg a day. And I gained 20 lbs while on it and had great gains. Just tryna figure out what I should do about the little lump under each nip.

 

[Peppers]

That OTC stuff isn't gunna do the trick.
Letro or Ralox. Letro sucks honestly but it works.

Or live with the lump lumps lol

 

[bigham]

Does it suck bc of the libido or is it just harsh? And would you dose that 2.5 mg and taper down ive seen some protocols like that.

 

[Peppers]

It's harsh across the board. Using it now.

2.5mg a day, taper off slowly.

 

[ion26]

Have you ever had gyno symptoms in the past? Like with any other compound or just in general?

 

[Mystere3]

Ralox and letro, don't f around.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

It's harsh across the board. Using it now.

2.5mg a day, taper off slowly.

I agree, letro totally sucks. it may work since the gyno is fairly new, but you will see how crushed estro feels. not fun at all.
I'd run 6 weeks of nolva and maybe a light dose of aromasin if you want. but nolva works great for gyno, for me, better than ai's. use an ai at the end of the nolva if you want to ensure that there isn't any rebound. otherwise, taper the nolva down gradually. but nolva alone should shrink the lumps, and its not as harsh.

 

[bigham]

Nah ive never had gyno symptoms before with other compounds. This was my first run of something actually strong though. Before I had only done cycles of havoc,1-andro, 4-AD. Theyre pretty small after taking the suicide inhibitor. Do you think 6 weeka of nolva is necessary?

 

[BRO SCIENCE]

how did you get gyno with m-sten it doesnt aromatize?...which company made it?

 

[bigham]

Thats what I thought too....anabolic technologies its called MASS

 

[bigham]

Ive heard most methylstenbolone that companys sell has a little bit of superdrol they secretly put in it...could that be?

 

[Peppers]

A compound doesn't have to aromatize to get gyno.

Get letro & ralox and get on it.

 

[bigham]

Dosing on ralox?

 

[lukehayd]

Were you running anything else while on cycle that could have caused it?

 

[BRO SCIENCE]

i took that anabolic technologies crap too (6mg) caps....I def thought that stuff was not m sten and wasnt even strong..im starting m sten rx tomorrow

 

[Peppers]

60mg a day ralox.

I've seen a nolva and ralox combo work for another guy on here. Took 2.5 months however.

 

[bigham]

I was running some natty test boosters nothin crazy. You didnt get results? I felt like a ****in beast on that stuff. Went from 315 bench to 385, squat went up from 405 to 450, deads 405 to 500. I gained 20 lbs. And its hard for me to gain wait bc im 6'8. Went from starting weight of 235 to 250

 

[bigham]

Thanks peppers I guess ill do letro 2.5 mg and taper and do 60 mg ralox. Any opinions on best place to get purity wise?

 

[Peppers]

I was running some natty test boosters nothin crazy. You didnt get results? I felt like a ****in beast on that stuff. Went from 315 bench to 385, squat went up from 405 to 450, deads 405 to 500. I gained 20 lbs. And its hard for me to gain wait bc im 6'8. Went from starting weight of 235 to 250

235-250 is 15lbs lol
Why would you run natty boosters on cycle?

Good increase on lift #"s though. Good ****.

 

[Peppers]

Thanks peppers I guess ill do letro 2.5 mg and taper and do 60 mg ralox. Any opinions on best place to get purity wise?

Pmd

 

[BRO SCIENCE]

no i got decent gains i ran it at 18mg for 4 weeks with mechabol...bench went up 50lbs and gained around 9lbs but who knows if it was from more of the m sten or mechabol..also that anabolic technologies m sten has other stuff in it like milk thisle and and a so called test boosting compound which makes no sense at all

 

[bigham]

Well now im 255 i continued to make gains through pct. I took the nattys just to keep libido up I was very lethargic on the msten. Thanks man, it feels good to get my numbers up finally I had a fractured radial head last summer so benching hadnt been the most fun thing to do lol

 

[Peppers]

Well now im 255 i continued to make gains through pct. I took the nattys just to keep libido up I was very lethargic on the msten. Thanks man, it feels good to get my numbers up finally I had a fractured radial head last summer so benching hadnt been the most fun thing to do lol

Good **** bro.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Nah ive never had gyno symptoms before with other compounds. This was my first run of something actually strong though. Before I had only done cycles of havoc,1-andro, 4-AD. Theyre pretty small after taking the suicide inhibitor. Do you think 6 weeka of nolva is necessary?

I only recommended 6 weeks if you want to try and kill it. and I meant 10mg/per day. I should have clarified. personally, per day, 40,40,20,20,10,10,10 per day for one week takes care of ANY gyno problems that I may have.
but imo, if your clomid was legit and you are not still shutdown a little, and the lumps are back, you may never get rid of them. my gyno always comes back eventually. no pain or anything but the lumps are always there. they disappear on nolva, but slowly come back over a period of weeks. always.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Ive heard most methylstenbolone that companys sell has a little bit of superdrol they secretly put in it...could that be?

sd doesn't aromatize either, but the effect that androgens have on other biochemical processes can always trigger it.