Best Nootropic For Mood And Happiness
- 07-30-2017, 04:55 PM
- 07-30-2017, 09:15 PM
Have you tried NootropiMax yet? It gives me a nice clean mood boost. I have handed out a ton at work and everyone enjoys it. We might have some samples available too.
07-30-2017, 09:23 PM
07-31-2017, 08:08 AM
Not really a nootropic but kratom does a great job of increasing mood. I've also recently started trying Vicaine and it also does a great job of increasing mood.
07-31-2017, 11:58 AM
Now, that's not saying there's anything wrong with kratom or Vicaine, as I have enjoyed both, but that they may not fit the bill of what OP is looking for, and are a different beast entirely compared to a nootropic that you can take daily.
OP, are you looking for something to take daily that will provide mood benefits as well as nootropic effects?
07-31-2017, 12:16 PM
07-31-2017, 12:29 PM
Hindsight is 20/20 but I dont know if it did anything. There are some studies on piracetam being the most researched nootropic and they looked promising . I simply dont know if it did anything, difficult to tell.
Ive done a log on sulbutiamine, maybe 2006 here. Dont know if that did anything, at the time I think it did.
Theres so many things that can be considered nootropics. If they can help someone great, I dont feel I need them now a days
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07-31-2017, 01:07 PM
If you're going to try to tell me that using NootropiMax daily carries the same potential risks/drawbacks as using kratom/Vicaine daily, and/or is equally as "unsuitable" for daily use, then there's no point in even carrying on this conversation; even the people making/selling Vicaine/kratom will tell you you probably shouldn't use them daily.
Again, I'm not knocking kratom or Vicaine at all. I have used kratom many times and enjoy it, and have also used Vicaine a few times and enjoyed it as well, and I respect MA and have enjoyed talking with him. In fact, I use NootropiMax daily, and sometimes will have some kratom in the evening, or will use Vicaine on certain rare occasions instead of NootropiMax (I don't recommend combining the two).
I apologize if I misread/misinterpreted your post/intentions, but I've just seen a lot of people lately comparing things that are in no way similar (not singling you out), like people saying cocaine isn't that bad, and people comparing LSD to caffeine and suggesting it's a good alternative to it. I just want to make it known to anyone who may be reading this and may not be that educated on the subject, that kratom and Vicaine are entirely different beasts than something like NootropiMax or any other basic nootropic supplement.
07-31-2017, 01:20 PM
07-31-2017, 01:21 PM
My point about nootropimax was that it was recommended before asking if OP has anxiety issues, blood pressure issues, etc. Things that might react poorly to large amounts of caffeine. So, just asking if they're looking for something to take daily or occasionally doesn't cover everything either. At some point you have to assume they'll look into things further and make a decision based on their needs and how they respond to similar items. That being said, I will admit that I respond very poorly to caffeine but the one sample I tried of nootropimax didn't seem to aggravate things (even though one capsule is 3 times the amount of caffeine I can usually tolerate) and it did provide a subtle increase in mood.
I don't think we disagree on anything here...you're just taking a more proactive approach than most by getting more information before providing a recommendation. I don't do that and assume (rightfully or wrongly) that others research things sufficiently (like I do) before blindly trying something that was recommended.
07-31-2017, 01:28 PM
I've been taking our Veinquish which is a non stim fat burner but with the 7-keto and Ashwagandha really elevate the mood.
Solid dose and value for very long term use.
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07-31-2017, 01:38 PM
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07-31-2017, 04:02 PM
Any other products recommended besides Nootropimax? Unfortunately I wasn't a responder to the product despite running the whole bottle :/
07-31-2017, 04:08 PM
08-01-2017, 06:12 PM
08-01-2017, 06:59 PM
Does anyone have any other suggestions? A mood elevating nootropic would be very versatile. Pre workout, at work, chores, etc.
08-01-2017, 07:04 PM
08-01-2017, 07:09 PM
08-01-2017, 07:22 PM
Best Nootropic For Mood And Happiness
Hopefully that helps. You could always go the individual ingredient route and see what works best for you. I have suggestions for that route too haha.
08-01-2017, 07:28 PM
08-01-2017, 07:29 PM
08-01-2017, 07:43 PM
For someone that is clinically depressed, or no? If someone has MDD, supplements aren't going to do much and that's something you need to discuss with your doctor. Exercise, stress relief and medication can be very effective MDD or PDD/dysthmia.
Otherwise, I haven't found much in the way of improving mood by supps. Caffeine and NALT work short-term because the dopamine boost, but after a few days the effects seem to be negligible. Cdp-choline, not much unfortunately. Maybe a little focus but mood-wise not much.
Ashwagandha seems to work for some, not me unfortunately.
Honestly the first thing that comes to mind is micro-dose psychedelics.
08-01-2017, 07:55 PM
As for psychedelics, that's really a different beast entirely. You inherently run a higher chance of abuse/addiction/etc with these drugs than you do with normal nootropic products, so extra care/caution/respect should be taken as to not dose too high or too often. Using psychedelics to improve mood should certainly be effective, haha, but caution should be taken, and I feel a responsibility to point this out to anyone who may be reading this, that while they can certainly be used safely and responsibly, there are naturally going to be more potential risks involved, and more care/caution should be taken when using them compared to your normal nootropic supplements.
Again, I'm not intending to sound like a buzz kill or a broken record, or to attack you at all, it's just that I've seen quite a few people recommending LSD and/or other psychedelic drugs as alternatives to caffeine and even someone saying that cocaine isn't that bad. I'm all for people being allowed/able to use whatever they want, but they should be as educated and informed as possible before making these decisions.
08-01-2017, 08:41 PM
I would argue strongly that taking something like tianeptine, an ingredient in Vicaine, has a much higher chance of abuse and withdrawal then microdosing LSD or mushrooms. All of tianeptine's downstream effects are entirely due to mu opioid agonism - not a sustainable solution.
I agree with you that caution should be warranted when considering serotonergic 'gray areas' such as LSD and should be discussed with a doctor. However, keep in mind I am coming at this post from more of a "happiness/anti-depressant" solution, as opposed to short-term mood boost. 5-HT1A activation on post-synaptic receptors is a reason why some SSRIs work, and why pharma is focusing on 5-HT1A biased agonism drugs (and other receptors) that are known to induce "happiness" effects such as increased sociability, sex drive/arousal less ED, & reduced fatigue. Hell, 5-ht1a post-synaptic activation can even have a two-pronged effect on dopamine, enhancing its release in the medial PFC/striatum/hippocampus and thus playing a role in the antidepressant/anxiolytic effects.
Well I think I've successfully derailed this thread off the original topic. :P
08-01-2017, 08:48 PM
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