Do you stand for the National Anthem?
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09-08-2018, 09:21 PM
Do you stand for the National Anthem?
Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate, said he supports BLM and wants to end the war on drugs. He says we have to many unnecessary laws and that makes to many prisoners. Heís opposed to stop and frisk. Etc.
Not voting sets a terrible example for people. Imagine if everyone who looked up to him, say young minorities, followed his example and didnít vote? It wouldnít convince the system to change itself, itíd mean even more republicans being elected who may even make matters worse, right?
09-08-2018, 09:23 PM
Veterans for Kaepernick
Maybe you would prefer Egypt where 75 have been sentenced to death for protesting...
In the USA we honor our Vets by protesting because they have sacrificed for our right to.
09-08-2018, 09:28 PM
Granted, many people don't share my reasoning, and think it's disrespectful or just don't like him, whatever, but I at least try to come from an objective legal perspective.
09-08-2018, 09:31 PM
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09-08-2018, 09:41 PM
I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to be cynical, only that, as I explained above, even if voting isn't THE solution, it can help a bit, and not voting will only make things worse by reducing the already small say in government that young minorities have.
But yeah, I'm clearly "not paying attention." This entire time I've been saying that I understand Kaep's message, and he has good points, and something needs to be done about it. I'm just saying that not voting is not the solution, and will only make matters worse.
Please read this from MLK:
It is my belief that one of the most significant steps that members of a minority community may take is that short walk to the voting booth. It is the responsibility of every good citizen to register and vote. I strongly urge you to vote in the coming election. Vote for the party and candidate of your choice, but by all means vote.
09-08-2018, 09:47 PM
Also, remember that 99% of the time both Republicans and Democrats want to expand the power of government, they just want to expand it to allow and prohibit different things, failing to realize that when they give a new power to their party, the opposing party will have that same power when they are voted in in the future. On the other hand, most libertarians, by definition, want to completely reform and constrain the government, and their primary focus is protecting individual liberty and rights, which would inherently mean holding corrupt and oppressive police and other officials accountable and pushing for policies that would make it more difficult for them to abuse their power. Again, they're not all perfect, but they're a hell of a lot better than this two-sides-of-the-same-coin thing we've all convinced ourselves we're stuck in.
09-08-2018, 10:24 PM
If you're offended by the second part of my setence saying "you're not paying attention", but do understand why that cynicism is there, then you're ignoring the first part of that sentence. Second part doesn't apply to you if the first doesn't.
09-08-2018, 10:27 PM
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09-08-2018, 10:31 PM
I was looking over the Amendments that'll be on the ballot in Florida this year, and read that the average proposed legislation from 2017 had a reading level of 20 years of education, which is graduate-level (as in graduate degree, not graduating high school). That's intentionally trying to mislead people IMO. I agree that if people can't understand what they're voting on, how can they expect to be able to improve their situation through voting? But then some candidates like Ron/Rand Paul want to simplify these massive and convoluted laws, and require politicians to actually read the proposed laws, so they'll get my vote, as they're unquestionably better than the current lot we have.
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I heard it live for the first occasion in many years at the park earlier this year. A JrHS football game was in beginning. Yeah I stopped and did the hand over heart. So did many others like myself who were within earshot but not in the stadium. Reflexive reaction from childhood.
I see it as a sign of respect to our flag which represents our country, our values, our way of life.
I would stand overseas in respect of other countries if they played their anthem at events. Like doing the one minute of silence in the UK on November 11th.
We did all of these things in our early youth as part of the training to be a good citizen. Stays with a person all their life. Respect for something larger than oneself.
Similarly, thanks to parents, PSAs, teachers I do not litter. Never have, never will. Training from early on in good habits. Similar with smoking, etc. Jesuits have a saying "Give me a child for the first seven years of his life and release him into the world he will come back to his training". Same reason in good ole P.S.XX I attended as kid in NYC taught us to be Americans. Same system used back to the 1800s with the influx of immigrants. You became as American as anyone here generations before.
That has all changed now of course to the detriment of our country.
09-20-2018, 09:24 PM
The US has failed black minoritys all throughout its history, yet you get mad because one man draws attention to it by kneeling during the anthem, and yet show zero compassion for his cause and his reasons.
You care more about the flag and the anthem than you do about the people of your own nation. That's shameful and you should be embarrassed OP.
When your nation fails you, repeatedly, why would you stand for it?
Ax1 - you made a point that statistically a black male is more likely to get shot by another black male than by a cop. You'd sure hope so. Police are there to protect others, not kill them.
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09-21-2018, 02:24 AM
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