Cali fires are shady AF
- 08-19-2018, 08:49 PM
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08-19-2018, 09:22 PM
It's all a simulation so it can be round or flat or whatever it needs to appear to be. That's what simulations do.
What I find ironic and funny is why people take this so seriously? What does it matter if one person is 'right' or 'wrong'? You don't have to be mean to one another in order to get a point across. None of you are that smart; nor have you earned the right to be on some intellectual pedestal as I clearly have... lol.
08-19-2018, 10:32 PM
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08-19-2018, 11:03 PM
Cali fires are shady AF
08-19-2018, 11:25 PM
We can make some amazing and basic assumptions about the world in which we exist. Here's a quick top 10 list off the top of my head and forgive the redundancy, as it's late and I feel like waxing poetic.
1. Technology has increased over time, and at a rate from the horse to planes exponentially with reason? I'm not sure.
2. We are not that smart. I don't believe we are for a moment solely responsible for 1.
3. Call it God / god / whatever, it is an outside influence.
4. We have no control over (it).
5. Technology will proceed at exponential levels or we will go backwards because we are self-destructive.
6. If it proceeds exponentially we will allegedly discover new forces, multi-verse, or validate a singular universe
7. Traveling through 'space' and 'time' will be breached into a new point of reach for us as a species
8. We will discover other life or we are alone
9. I'm exhausted. Maybe we have built in self-destruct sequencing (aging) for a reason.
10. We're just too dangerous of a species to reach outward without a leash... we are tethered.
Why argue about it?
If having a choice of being right or wrong and live in peace to be wrong, I'd be happy if none of the above were true.
Let's just ride horses, farm land, be good people, live and die. All this technology hasn't made us better.
I think we're worse. As inspector Poirot says, there is "right and there is wrong".
We'd all be better off if it were a simulation, meaning a life span isn't even a concern. Simulations don't have to end, just restart or pick up were they left off with new rules. Think, dreaming and then waking up. Are we not bridging between simulations in our dreams?
All these great minds thinking of ways to reach outward when we haven't the desire to fix what's broken within.
It's ironic and idiotic. What a self-absorbed animal we all are to think so highly of ourselves when we wage war on every border with factions; religions; politics, and races.
Does the shape of the earth matter? We're never leaving it.
08-20-2018, 12:24 AM
This may sound much harsher than I intend it to, but I prefer being blunt. Just because you don't understand a concept, doesn't make it untrue or mean that everybody else doesn't understand it. Accelerating change in technology is due to quite a few things, but basically each new generation is an improvement on the last. You have better automation as time goes by and you better technology to create the next technology. Most importatly, you have ever increasing sharing of information. Even within the timeframe you were speaking of there were advances in transportation and publishing which got ideas out to more people and increased collaboration. Fast forward to present day and that only keeps increasing.
I'm not arguing because of the shape of the Earth. I'm arguing because we've got to the point where people ignore scientists and medical doctors or claim they're lying, but believe youtube and facebook memes. We have a President that yells fake news and goes ignores science. We're going backwards because of it and if some people see technology as scary and bad because they don't understand it, then they can get the **** out of the way.
08-20-2018, 06:30 AM
We cannot go back. Farmers can't make money as there is no such thing as a fair trade today given the political climate, and economy. You cannot just farm what you want. I've considered it. They even use and depend on technology, satellite connectivity for watering and just in time delivery systems. You cannot escape technology, and I am on the edge of visible technology in your life.
I'm the guy people call when it breaks.
You don't get it. Each generation is not smart enough to advance technology. We just didn't exponentially build on the previous, and that scares human beings when they think about it. I feel as we are being spoon fed like babies, the information needed to propel forward in some way, but I don't see it as moving forward, but in just a different direction.
I've not claimed anyone is lying. They are just regurgitating what they have considered was earned, and in itself can be considered a conspiracy theory of itself, but that's ok, it's not as if I'm saying the earth is flat or going against what exists in 'nature'. What I am contending is, nature is not real, and we are virtual manifestations of a simulation. Think of this. When an arm is cut off, don't you feel it still? They can 'explain' it, the doctors. Are they lying when they try to explain the phantom limb? No. I don't believe they are correct.
We are all so caught up in distractions on a daily basis we are not spending nearly enough time collectively on what really matters philosophically and addressing our own reality.
They should get out of the way of what? "Progress?"
Isn't that a new design on the peach...
Can you see now, how it is immaterial wether you could go backwards or if you go forward technologically speaking? It is a moot point, if the simulation is the reality. Look at anything creative, or considered original with regard to ideas alone and you will have served a fruitless endeavor.
We have 'information' at our fingertips. How accurate or relevant is it however?
I've used the term "distraction" and the more information available, the more distractions not solutions.
What do we need? We need to break through to see something new, and unexplainable that has been agreed on by everyone. It would be akin to discovering water is wet for the first time. How trustworthy are our senses? (A quick harken back to: severed limb and how you can actually 'feel' it.)
It sounds crazy to write, but how crazy is it really? How real are your dreams?
It's as if we can imagine, but not grasp and control yet we are bound to basic rules of our world's (universes') laws of physics, and this ridiculous need to venture out into space, when we should be figuring out how to fold and mold it to our own purposes. That's a technology that would expand our universe.
I've been a fan of quantum physics for a while; the describing of intelligence; string theory (multi-verse) and our constant tinkering with the fabric of reality with the Large Hadron Colllider. I just found this in my search for some interesting anecdotal regarding Quantum Physics, etc.
Neil deGrasse Tyson: It's hard to argue that we aren't living in a simulated world
Simulation: Nick Bostrom
Nick Bostrom - The Simulation Argument (Full)
There are some other interesting videos on this page as well.
The earth is round.
So, the world is flat / round argument is fairly meaningless, however our laws of physics and our nature dictate a sphere is the easiest description of an object created in space. Blow a bubble that is flat. You can't.
Even if we accept the 'simulation' idea, then we are left with a philosophical enigma.
Is there a God?
What's the difference between good and evil? Who cares? Is there a simulated 'heaven' and 'hell'?
What does anything matter and do we have to obey the ideas that were set forth from the game master? (God) then we should probably be nice to one another.
08-20-2018, 11:47 AM
08-20-2018, 12:16 PM
Can you be any more condescending? Iím an expert on technology. Not religious in the least bit bro.
08-20-2018, 12:46 PM
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08-20-2018, 03:09 PM
Wait. You need some kind of writ in order to relegate my ideas relevant or not? A degree or something?
What if I was an autodidact? Like I am.
Well, let's see. What feats of mental muscle am I required to flex in order to impress you enough to even consider my ideas relevant? I reprogramed my commodore 64's random number generator and before they extended the numbers won a little money in the lottery years ago...
I have a technology patent that ran out years ago for security. It was a novel device. Spent 50k prototyping then shelving it because it wasn't really viable at the time.
Now, I just fix sh*t for Apple; work on my art; and theorize about the origins of creativity.
I also created a formula for conceptual art that utilizes the equation for intelligence.
I don't know what you want here. I'm not trying to flex anything, or argue, just propose alternative ideas.
You attack the messenger as 'religious' where I have given you no reason to do so, and you've attacked the links based on delivery vehicle and those delivering the message as not up to par? Are you kidding? What's wrong with philosophy? Aren't those interesting questions as well, or do you only pray to the altar of physics?
I believe there are multiple dimensions; there is no real death of conscious; and there's far more to this thing than in some lab or large hadron collider watching particles bang one another. Though, I did apply for a front row seat on a sabbatical for artists in CERN. I just didn't get picked. Next time.
08-20-2018, 03:20 PM
You told me that I "just don't get it", but say that I am being condescending to you and won't explain how I am being condescending.
You mentioned God. That's the only reason I brought it up, as a response to what you said. I mention the word god and you accuse me now of saying that you're religious?
No idea why you think I'm attacking you when you keep telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about and I keep trying to understand where you're coming from. You're talking about philosophy in response to a physical science topic and nobody is stopping you. But hey, if it makes you feel better to put words in my mouth and attack me without asking for clarification, rock on.
08-20-2018, 03:22 PM
You have issue bruh.
08-20-2018, 03:27 PM
08-20-2018, 03:36 PM
You don't get to chastise BLR for my personal opinions, and I don't formulate for them, but it doesn't mean I don't know how or have not in the past, for another company. You've got some nerve fella.
08-20-2018, 03:42 PM
08-20-2018, 03:50 PM
You argue like a child.
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