- 07-30-2018, 12:46 PM
- 07-30-2018, 12:47 PM
Check in to a detox to get off the alcohol safely. Afterwards find AA meetings in your area. Get connected and the rest will follow. I was an addict/alcoholic for 15 years I am recently 6 years sober. It works
07-30-2018, 12:50 PM
07-30-2018, 01:07 PM
07-30-2018, 01:17 PM
07-30-2018, 01:21 PM
OP do not take kratom. It was worse for me than opiates. It got to the point for me that i would take it before bed so the withdrawals didnt kick in in the middle of the night and i would still wake up in the middle of the night going through withdrawals and need to take more. That sh1t is bad. Some people can take it moderately and not get hooked. But if you're having problems with drinking i wouldnt risk it bc most likely you wont be one of the people that can take it moderately. Just my 2 cents take it or leave it.
07-30-2018, 01:33 PM
Not saying you can't withdraw from it but going around telling people it's evil don't do it is nonsense. That's for you not for everyone else. You couldn't do it.
07-30-2018, 02:26 PM
07-30-2018, 02:28 PM
07-30-2018, 02:31 PM
07-30-2018, 02:31 PM
Not interested in taking any drugs really. Been taking kudzu root everyday for almost a week. Almost a week without alcohol! Wish me luck (:
07-30-2018, 02:37 PM
It may not be easy, but it will be worthwhile.
A good thing to have in your arsenal is someone, best a strong male figure, who you can tell the truth to and who cares enough about your relationship that he is willing to tell you what you need to hear, rather than what you want to hear. In fact, he probably has to be willing to lose the relationship, as a result of telling you things that you don't want to hear.
Those types of friends can be rare, especially if many of your peers have similar habits to yours (e.g., drinking). People usually hang out with people of similar interest so it can be hard to find a buddy that not only does not tell you no, but he justifies why just having one won't hurt.
As to the extent to which you should substitute one thing for another, it seems like you are sick and tired of being sick and tired. If so, there is some merit to developing coping skills to deal with this without building a reliance on something else. That, to me, seems ideal - but we also know that things are not always ideal or that ideal may be the long term goal, but it may require some short term bridges.
07-30-2018, 02:38 PM
I was a bit sharp in my Approach with you man I apologize for that. My advice to you is to consider that your an exception not the norm and to approach it that way when you tell other people instead of saying it to them like that's what will happen to them if they do it.
07-30-2018, 02:46 PM
07-30-2018, 02:48 PM
07-30-2018, 03:02 PM
Bintherduntht was talking about it that got me to try it and it was one of the worst things that ever happened to me. I know other people like it and thats up to them but i dont care what anyone says im going to tell people my experience when i see other suggesting it for stuff like this bc who knows that person could end up exactly like me. I know if it wasnt for my wife and kids i probably wouldve just killed myself instead of keep trying bc i didnt have any hope. Thats why i approach it the way i do. If it offends anyone, oh well. K ive said enough. Back to your scheduled programming
07-30-2018, 03:29 PM
Also as someone who was an Air Force vet, athlete, and always in good health... Despite my partying in 20s and early 30s... (edit) I was dependent on them for sleep, bakc pain relief... not chasing a euphoria as I used to. Going cold-turkey is not always advisable, as benzos/opiates and stronger downers can lead to grand-mal seizure...
As had happened to me, waking up in the ER four weeks ago. While will power is required, cold turkey may not be best depending on what you were on.
And has someone who has tried everything under the sun, I do not recommend kratom or marijuana as substitute addiction or dependency.
Work with a neurologist, a chemical dependency specialist. Kasier put me on Gabapentin (GABA analog, does not accumulate in body) fixed my sleep, killed my desire for benzos to sleep.
07-30-2018, 03:51 PM
07-30-2018, 03:53 PM
07-30-2018, 03:55 PM
It's not an evil monster, but it's also not entirely benign for everyone all the time.
07-30-2018, 06:27 PM
07-30-2018, 06:31 PM
07-30-2018, 11:20 PM
07-30-2018, 11:22 PM
07-31-2018, 07:21 PM
No worries here man just really wanting to help OP and if he doesn't want to take certain advice he won't! He probably didn't even listen to me lol.
Again just trying to help. I've struggled with addiction for 10 years, not fun.
I honestly never get addicted to K though... No cravings no withdrawal.
The way your supposed to take it, once or twice a week
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