Should I use...

[bigredlemon]

I'm not seeing much results by just eating big and lifting. According to my bf calipers, I'm gaining 4 times more fat than muscle when I bulk, and make no weight gains at all when I reduce my caloric intake.

Should I take a test booster like rebound xt, kilosport attack, novedex xtreme, etc? Or perhaps a better question would be, would you take it if you were me?

I'm mid 20s, 170lb@15%, and never used before.

 

[T-Bone]

You need to figure out your diet first and find out whats wrong and start making gains first without supplements. They are not to be used as a crutch when your staling. Get a good book on diet or pay for someones personal help. Don't just take a supplement thinking that will help....There is a reason they are called "Supplements"

 

[bigredlemon]

I'm averaging 3500 cals per day with about 180g protein, 450g carbs, 110g fat, over 4 meals a day, right now. No alcohol. While not perfect, I think it's releatively good and I should be seeing better results than I am. I used to have been on 3200 cals per day with 300g protein, 300g carbs, 90g of fat. I'm getting better results on my current diet than I that. I have also been on a 4500cal/day diet and seem to have gained 10lb of fat per 1lb muscle. I don't think a mere boost of cals or protein will solve it. If there's something else I could try I would love to, but I can't really think of anything. I've been playing around with my diets during the 18 months and the above is the best I've found so far on bulking.

 

[T-Bone]

Your only 170 pounds, you don't need 3500 calories!. No wonder you are gaining fat!

 

[bigredlemon]

Your only 170 pounds, you don't need 3500 calories!. No wonder you are gaining fat!

I was on 3200 cals/day for 8 months. I lifted 3-5 a week depending on the split, and for those 8 weeks of work, I dropped 1% bf and gained 0 pounds. At 3500 cals, I'm gaining about 1lb a week, about 75% fat 25% muscle. That's why I settled on 3500. Any lower and I don't seem to gain at all. Any higher and I don't gain only a little bit more muscle but a lot more fat.

 

[bigredlemon]

Right now I'm deciding between

1. continuing this bulking thing until Feb 06, where I should be at around 190 @ 20%bf, cutting to 12%bf probably at around 170, and then deciding what to do from there,
or
2. running rebound xt for a month and try to pack on as much size as possible so long as I stay under 20%bf

Do you think someone like should not be doing #2?

 

[T-Bone]

You just need to learn a lot more about diet and nutrition. I'm not gonna counsel you for free. You can find a lot of good books out there or you can consult someone and pay them. On this board, BOBO can help you out. I refer you to him and his services.


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