Status of EvoMuse?
- 06-27-2018, 09:52 AM
- 06-27-2018, 12:25 PMSerious Nutrition Solutions Product Rep - db77 @ seriousnutritionsolutions.com
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06-27-2018, 08:52 PM
Hey guys...to be honest @dsade has been going through some difficult times and has a lot on his plate. Our communitlcations over the past couple months have been very limited.
Matt is aware of the issue, he actually brought it up to me this afternoon. He is working on it and doing his best. Sorry I dont have more to offer...
06-27-2018, 09:05 PM
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06-27-2018, 09:16 PM
Thanks for the concern to you and all on here. We both appreciate the concern, loyalty and patience of everyone on here.
06-29-2018, 02:19 PM
Well hope he’s ok. Evomuse products have always been exciting and the guy realy try’s to cover all angles and explore new ones.
You can’t say it about most guys/company’s but he seems to care more about the quality and actual use of the products than the money side of things, obviously he needs to make money and is a business after all but you know what I mean.
06-29-2018, 10:55 PM
According to yesterday's FB post,
"So because of a Payflow error, the store was disabled for 10 days. Trying to recoup lost revenue for the next restock (AMMO or Slintensity) along with the TopMuscle release.
I'm open to making some custom product stack offerings...let me know what you want to see added."
06-30-2018, 02:29 AM
07-02-2018, 05:57 PM
Anyone able to confirm if payment is working on the store now? Would like to order some gut health and java lather
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07-04-2018, 11:11 AM
If you look at Matt's formulas you will notice two issues instantly - most of them have a long list of ingredients and some of those ingredients are really hard to source.
What this ultimately means is that you have to find all the ingredients which normally involves multiple sources, get them to someone with a certified facility that can accept all the ingredients and is willing to do so (some manufacturers won't accept something they didn't source), and then hit the minimums for a very specialized formula.
And the long list of ingredients alone means the cost of the product becomes very high. Throw in the logistics, and all the minimum purchasing requirements and it's a nightmare.
For instance, if I wanted to sell Agmatine pills I may be able to purchase 10 KG to get the price I need and make enough to make a significant profit.
But if I have 3 ingredients and I have to buy 5 KG of each to hit minimums - I've increased costs by 50% right there. If any of those ingredients aren't used by other companies and are specialized or difficult to source - maybe I've doubled the cost for a minimum batch.
So as much as I think I could negotiate with someone to pick up some of Matt's formulas, every company I am aware of either of us even beginning a conversation starts off with, "What ingredients can we take out of this product to make the list smaller?"
For instance, most companies will set a price point before even formulating. They will say, new pre-workout that will cost us $5/tub and we can sell for $40 (or worse) You wont get many ingredients for $5 per 20 or 30 servings.
And Matt's profit margins are small, which kind of is what creates the issue. But he wants people to use and love his products and wants the products to be as effective as a supplement can be.
I have told him I bet he would be surprised at how many people would actually pay $10 or even $20 more for some of his products, because they work, if the products were regularly stocked.
I also think...since I am a customer myself...that it sucks because he gets things made and I want to try them which means I have to place BIG orders when it is available or never get the stuff. So I have to spend $300 all at once for 6 months. ...but if I didn't have that pressure he could probably get $100 a month out of me easy which would be easier for me, and make him more money..
07-04-2018, 09:48 PM