big time cycle and need some suggestions

[ugab37]

Heres my cycle and I could use any feedback for my pct.

Im taking a buttload of supporting supps and will be doing so for duration of pct as well.

Im running the following cycle:

(Also 20mgNolva and .5mg Letro for entire cycle)
phera 30mg/ prost 75
phera 30mg / prost 100
prera 40mg / prost 125
supr 40mg/ prost 150
supr 40mg/ prost 175
supr 40 mg/ prost 200

Im planning on doing a very extensive pct and im hoping to get more cut and stronger on pct and off time. I know its about impossible but Im definately givin it a shot.

this is what id like to run at the from the start of pct:
clomid, (Need suggestions on dosing)
clen, (need suggestions on dosing)
Powerfull at 12 caps a day
Cissus Rx at 9 caps a day
Activate at 4 caps a day
Lean Xtreme at 4 per day
Rebound starting at 4per day and going down to 2
Xfactor at 4 day
40g of BCAAs
CEE
AEE
40g of Glutamine

What do u guys think?
Anything to take away?
Anything to Add?
I really would like to see some suggestions on when to start each of these products and the dosing as well.

I will running all my supportin supps throughout pct. I know some of these products will only be for pct and then cut out for the off cycle time.

I know these questions are a lot to ask. I have researched but id like to know all of your opinions. U guys have taken all this stuff and know what yall are talking about. Thanks for any help in advance.

 

[ManBeast]

I have not run those products, so I can't comment mcuh on the specifics of your cycle/pct, but I will reccomend not using the nolva or letro unless you have had major bloat/gyno problems in the past.
I will comment on your idea to try and get stronger and more cut on pct... don't do it, it will be a waste of your time and money. Do a proper PCT, then try to get more cut and stronger at a later time. While you might be able to get a bit more cut and a bit stronger during PCT using all those compounds, you will realize much better gains if you save them for later.

ManBeast

 

[ugab37]

thanks man

so u which ones shoud i use for the off period and which ones for the pct?

also, anybody else with some good feedback like that?

 

[ManBeast]

PCT: nolva/clomid, has always worked well for me. Maybe use a little clen to help keep excess fat off, keep your calories high during PCT as well to retain gains (yes, you should put on a little fat). Glutamine and Creatine should help during PCT as well as during the cycle (glutamine pct only if you don't have a lot). There are a whole bunch of new compounds out there that I haven't had time to research yet, but Fenugreek has gotten good reviews, I am guessing Rebound is for PCT as well.

Basically I would save anything that is designed for major fat loss or muscle gain for another run. Other than a bit of clen during the first 2-3 weeks at no more than 60mcg/day, just stick to the recovery supps.

ManBeast

 

[jonny21]

Like manbeast stated, drop the anti-e's during unless needed (bloat/gyno). Drop the glutamine unless you have aids, cancer or gi issues; buy more BCAA with the money you save.

IMO, i would save the clen, powerfull and activate for post PCT. Also reduce your Rebound XT by half and use the leftover with your activate.

 

[Grunt76]

:goodpost:

 

[Ubiquitous]

I don't get where the "big time" fits in.

good luck anyways though.

 

[ugab37]

okay, so the clen, powerfull, and activate should be used for post pct. For pct, what would yall recommend?
If anyone could list there own pct, i really appreciate it.

 

[THETEST]

When did you start this cycle - ?? Be prepared to cut down to 20mg - you will know within 2 weeks if you start getting sides (I got them at 30mg on PP), I was fine on 20mg of SD, 10 in the morn, 10 at night. Good luck man

 

[ugab37]

im on week 3 right now. Havent had any sides. Im at about 235. The high dosages havent caused any problems yet.

Anybody got an example pct for a similar stack? Everything i listed above, i already have and plan to use. Its just the when and how much i need suggestions on.

 

[ugab37]

also, of all the products i listed above, would any be good to use while on cycle. I still have 4 weeks left so that is an option. If any would be beneficial, please list with rec. dosages.

 

[Beelzebub]

I don't get where the "big time" fits in.

good luck anyways though.

LOL, was thinking the same thing.

 

[ugab37]

by the way, the "big time" thing was just to get some extra feedback. I figured everybody would be more likely to read it with that as the title.

 

[italionstallion]

I would suggest saving the X-factor for a lator date. You will want to be taking all the healthy fats you can, and even sesamin during PCT. With x-factor, those are all emliminated and you are suppose to get a lot of your fat from saturated sources

 

[ugab37]

im plannin on taking 9caps of fish oils and 4 caps of flaxseed everyday. Ill save the x factor for a later time. Which of the earlier supps i listed should i use for pct and off cycle?

 

[Ubiquitous]

by the way, the "big time" thing was just to get some extra feedback. I figured everybody would be more likely to read it with that as the title.

that's cool.. I didn't mean to sound like a dick.. I just thought I'd see some crazy Andreas Muntzer stack, or megadose type cycle with all the bells and whistles.. kind of got me excited.

Next thread I start is going to be entitled "Look at my pretty vagina" for the same reason.

At least my boy Beelze was feeling me. tee hee

good luck with your run in any case.

 

[ugab37]

thats cool, anybody with a good example pct with some of the supps i listed above?

 

[jonny21]

Next thread I start is going to be entitled "Look at my pretty vagina" for the same reason.

:lol: