1st cycle advice

[Nimrod2226]

I am 33 years old, 5’11 210 been training religiously for over 18 years. I want to use anavar in the beginning along w a 10 week cycle of test e. I want to know exactly what I need to take on cycle as well as pct. I want to go about this the right way so any and all advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks

 

[DemntedCowboy]

I am 33 years old, 5’11 210 been training religiously for over 18 years. I want to use anavar in the beginning along w a 10 week cycle of test e. I want to know exactly what I need to take on cycle as well as pct. I want to go about this the right way so any and all advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Why only 10 weeks?

 

[Nimrod2226]

Why only 10 weeks?

U recommend 12?

 

[DemntedCowboy]

U recommend 12?

I would do atleast 12

 

[Nimrod2226]

I would do atleast 12

Ok 12 it is, I only want to use the var in the front end, would u think week 1-6?

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Ok 12 it is, I only want to use the var in the front end, would u think week 1-6?

I would use it 6-12. But if you wanna run it up front 1-6 could be good. I like Var on the back end.

 

[Nimrod2226]

I would use it 6-12. But if you wanna run it up front 1-6 could be good. I like Var on the back end.

And how much Clomid would i run during?

 

[DemntedCowboy]

And how much Clomid would i run during?

Dont know. I use Nolva

 

[Mathb33]

Dont use clomid. I would use torem if I was you OR nolva... Also as cowboy said using Anavar at the end would be better than as a polishing tool. When you add something week at the start it’s to kickstart your cycle early

 

[Nimrod2226]

Dont use clomid. I would use torem if I was you OR nolva... Also as cowboy said using Anavar at the end would be better than as a polishing tool. When you add something week at the start it’s to kickstart your cycle early

Ok thanks, and what should I use for pct?

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Ok thanks, and what should I use for pct?

Nolva works quite well

 

[Nimrod2226]

Nolva works quite well

Thanks man, really appreciate it, how long and how much?

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Thanks man, really appreciate it, how long and how much?

4 weeks 20/20/10/10

 

[Whisky]

Yeah @dementedcowboy got you covered here bro.

Test e plus a 6 week finisher of var would be a very solid proper first cycle.

Think you might be confusing what clomid is for though. Generally clomid or nolva are used in pct (clomid dosing at 50/25/25/25 or nolva as per cowboy) would be normal.

Some people have recently been running a serm on cycle to try and avoid shutdown. I’ve not seen anything conclusive on that working or not but personally I wouldn’t run clomid on cycle for your first run: if shutdown is a concern and you want to keep the testes firing then HCG would be a better on cycle support imo.

You will however need a good ai on hand. Aromisin or arimidex for example. Test e at 500 a week (pretty standard dosing) will need an ai for probably most. Don’t start without that in your hand, no one wants to grow a titty they don’t have the tools to get rid of.

There’s loads of info on all this both on AM and elsewhere brother, make sure you’ve researched fully so you are confident in what you are doing and how it works etc. You’ll worry less on cycle and enjoy it more

 

[Nimrod2226]

Yeah @dementedcowboy got you covered here bro.

Test e plus a 6 week finisher of var would be a very solid proper first cycle.

Think you might be confusing what clomid is for though. Generally clomid or nolva are used in pct (clomid dosing at 50/25/25/25 or nolva as per cowboy) would be normal.

Some people have recently been running a serm on cycle to try and avoid shutdown. I’ve not seen anything conclusive on that working or not but personally I wouldn’t run clomid on cycle for your first run: if shutdown is a concern and you want to keep the testes firing then HCG would be a better on cycle support imo.

You will however need a good ai on hand. Aromisin or arimidex for example. Test e at 500 a week (pretty standard dosing) will need an ai for probably most. Don’t start without that in your hand, no one wants to grow a titty they don’t have the tools to get rid of.

There’s loads of info on all this both on AM and elsewhere brother, make sure you’ve researched fully so you are confident in what you are doing and how it works etc. You’ll worry less on cycle and enjoy it more

Awesome man thanks so much to both of you. I have tried some prohormones in the past and am inclined to get gyno, what would be my best bet to run along side the test?

Thanks again

 

[DemntedCowboy]

Awesome man thanks so much to both of you. I have tried some prohormones in the past and am inclined to get gyno, what would be my best bet to run along side the test?

Thanks again

I would get some adex you could start with .5mg a week if you start feeling symptoms

 

[Nimrod2226]

I would get some adex you could start with .5mg a week if you start feeling symptoms

The Clomid as pct 50/25/25/25 is 25mg per day or week

 

[DemntedCowboy]

The Clomid as pct 50/25/25/25 is 25mg per day or week

If you use clomid I would use the protocol as listed 50mg everyday first week, 25mg everyday for next 2 weeks, then drop to 12.5mg everyday last week.

 

[Nimrod2226]

If you use clomid I would use the protocol as listed 50mg everyday first week, 25mg everyday for next 2 weeks, then drop to 12.5mg everyday last week.

Awesome thanks

 

[Bintherduntht]

I am 33 years old, 5’11 210 been training religiously for over 18 years. I want to use anavar in the beginning along w a 10 week cycle of test e. I want to know exactly what I need to take on cycle as well as pct. I want to go about this the right way so any and all advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks

They have cycle support supps in a stack you can buy online. Support for prostate, cardiovascular, liver, blood pressure, joint support, cholesterol etc. These are what you should be concerned about on cycle. Here are some I've found to help:

NAC
Milk thistle(cholesterol)
TUDCA(for orals helps liver)
Cranberry extract
Nettle root
Hawthorne berry
Saw palmetto
Cissus Quadralangurais
Coq-10
Fish oil.

Nolva for pct

 

[Nimrod2226]

They have cycle support supps in a stack you can buy online. Support for prostate, cardiovascular, liver, blood pressure, joint support, cholesterol etc. These are what you should be concerned about on cycle. Here are some I've found to help:

NAC
Milk thistle(cholesterol)
TUDCA(for orals helps liver)
Cranberry extract
Nettle root
Hawthorne berry
Saw palmetto
Cissus Quadralangurais
Coq-10
Fish oil.

Nolva for pct

Great, thanks
Now I just gotta find test as my “guy” isn’t taking orders anymore

 

[Bintherduntht]

Great, thanks
Now I just gotta find test as my “guy” isn’t taking orders anymore

Late reply I'm sorry, as far as I know the "guys" are a dime a dozen nowadays... I started around 2010 and I had to find someone in person. I guess there are a lot more online now

 

[Nimrod2226]

Late reply I'm sorry, as far as I know the "guys" are a dime a dozen nowadays... I started around 2010 and I had to find someone in person. I guess there are a lot more online now

Yea I have been looking online and found a few decent options, the obvious concern is having this stuff mailed to my home haha, a lot easier just meeting up w someone in person

 

[BloodManor]

Sounds like op did not do any research
You need to do a little more research before you start. And is your diet in check? Routine? What is your current bf? At 5’11 210 I bet you are above 20%

 

[Nimrod2226]

Sounds like op did not do any research
You need to do a little more research before you start. And is your diet in check? Routine? What is your current bf? At 5’11 210 I bet you are above 20%

You hear 5’11 210 and assume above 20%? Interesting, my diet is in perfect check, meal prep Monday through Saturday, Sunday I allow a cheat meal. Lifting 5 days per week with 20 minutes of cardio usually stepper 3-4 days per week. Last I check 1-2 month ago my bf is 14%.
Thanks

 

[BloodManor]

You hear 5’11 210 and assume above 20%? Interesting, my diet is in perfect check, meal prep Monday through Saturday, Sunday I allow a cheat meal. Lifting 5 days per week with 20 minutes of cardio usually stepper 3-4 days per week. Last I check 1-2 month ago my bf is 14%.
Thanks

This guy is 5’11 and 180 at around 13-14% bf - so you are saying you have 30lbs of muscle over this guy? And never ran real cycles before ?

 

[Nimrod2226]

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This guy is 5’11 and 180 at around 13-14% bf - so you are saying you have 30lbs of muscle over this guy? And never ran real cycles before ?

Yes, I also didn’t come on here for a dick measuring contest. What, u want pics? I don’t lift for 2 years and stop for 3 and start up again, I have been lifting and continue to lift month after month year after year. I came here for advice not to hurt ur feelings bc I’m a big dude bc I’m dedicated as hell and ur feeling some sort of way about it

 

[Nimrod2226]

Yes, I also didn’t come on here for a dick measuring contest. What, u want pics? I don’t lift for 2 years and stop for 3 and start up again, I have been lifting and continue to lift month after month year after year. I came here for advice not to hurt ur feelings bc I’m a big dude bc I’m dedicated as hell and ur feeling some sort of way about it

 

[BloodManor]

Yes, I also didn’t come on here for a dick measuring contest. What, u want pics? I don’t lift for 2 years and stop for 3 and start up again, I have been lifting and continue to lift month after month year after year. I came here for advice not to hurt ur feelings bc I’m a big dude bc I’m dedicated as hell and ur feeling some sort of way about it

Don’t take it as bashing you I want to make sure you are going in the right direction that’s it. Sorry if I came off as a ass
Plus I’m 6’4 250 and not natural so I don’t care how big anyone is lol

 

[Nimrod2226]

Don’t take it as bashing you I want to make sure you are going in the right direction that’s it. Sorry if I came off as a ass
Plus I’m 6’4 250 and not natural so I don’t care how big anyone is lol

Haha oh well ur a monster than, nah it’s cool my bad as well. So would u suggest going the online route for legit test?

 

[BloodManor]

Haha oh well ur a monster than, nah it’s cool my bad as well. So would u suggest going the online route for legit test?

I have my personal supplier that I get mine from but I have ordered it online and found comparable quality. Test is almost never faked since it is such a cheap compound and usually the purity that it’s stated.
Anavar on the other hand is faked a lot but faked anavar is usually winny so it’s still great at leaning you up just without the strength increase. Personally I like started my test cycles with dbol or anabol for 6 weeks then run anavar for the next 6 weeks with 500mg a test the whole time.
Ai low dose with test ingections
Then for pct I like clomid at 50mg daily for first 2 weeks then 25mg daily for the last 2 weeks with a natural test booster alongside. These are all semi mild cycles with minimal sides and gain some serious mass

 

[Nimrod2226]

I have my personal supplier that I get mine from but I have ordered it online and found comparable quality. Test is almost never faked since it is such a cheap compound and usually the purity that it’s stated.
Anavar on the other hand is faked a lot but faked anavar is usually winny so it’s still great at leaning you up just without the strength increase. Personally I like started my test cycles with dbol or anabol for 6 weeks then run anavar for the next 6 weeks with 500mg a test the whole time.
Ai low dose with test ingections
Then for pct I like clomid at 50mg daily for first 2 weeks then 25mg daily for the last 2 weeks with a natural test booster alongside. These are all semi mild cycles with minimal sides and gain some serious mass

Ok awesome, thanks so much I appreciate it