What supplements reduce lactic acid?

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I have relative success with bcaa and glutamine, but it seems to be hit or miss with different products. What other supplements would work to reduce lactic acid build up?
 
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Sodium bicarbonate, beta alanine. Maybe even magnesium.
 
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Beta alanine is trash.
L-carnosine is what you should be looking for
 

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Why do you want to decrease it or should I say is this more for performance or specifically lactic acid?

Sodium bicarbonate, beta alanine. Maybe even magnesium.
Solid suggestions.

Thanks bro how much sodium bicarbonate do you recommend?
Start low and build up. I'd have to go look up the numbers again don't have it off the top of my head, but too much all at once too quick can jack the stomach up.

Beta alanine is trash.
L-carnosine is what you should be looking for
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Why do you want to decrease it or should I say is this more for performance or specifically lactic acid?
I just started cycling again after almost a year and the last few days my legs are starting to feel like a punching bag. Trying to focus more on aerobic exercise at the moment.

Already getting magnesium from ZMA but going to try high dosing beta alanine. Also going to try mixing sodium bicarbonate in water. Maybe start with one tablespoon twice a day or too much?
 

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I just started cycling again after almost a year and the last few days my legs are starting to feel like a punching bag. Trying to focus more on aerobic exercise at the moment.

Already getting magnesium from ZMA but going to try high dosing beta alanine. Also going to try mixing sodium bicarbonate in water. Maybe start with one tablespoon twice a day or too much?
Punching bags as in tired during training or sore the next day?
 
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Punching bags as in tired during training or sore the next day?

I think my legs were just destroyed. I did something like 13 miles that day. Crazy amount of cardio. I'm taking a break from the weightlifting and trying to focus more on cardio
 
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I saw something about fasted exercise can cause the body to recycle lactic acid
 
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I saw something about fasted exercise can cause the body to recycle lactic acid
Interesting. I prefer to run fasted anyway first thing in the morning. If the run is longer than of course I would have breakfast
 

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I think my legs were just destroyed. I did something like 13 miles that day. Crazy amount of cardio. I'm taking a break from the weightlifting and trying to focus more on cardio
Ok well soreness doesn't really have to do with lactic acid. Jumping into that much cardio is just a big shock, but you'll adjust.

I'd still keep a little strength training though, it can be beneficial.

I saw something about fasted exercise can cause the body to recycle lactic acid
FWIW I wouldn't get overly focused on lactic acid. It is just one tiny component in the endurance training realm. Improving lactic acid clearance can be done without worry about fasted exercise as well.
 
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Ok well soreness doesn't really have to do with lactic acid. Jumping into that much cardio is just a big shock, but you'll adjust.

I'd still keep a little strength training though, it can be beneficial.



FWIW I wouldn't get overly focused on lactic acid. It is just one tiny component in the endurance training realm. Improving lactic acid clearance can be done without worry about fasted exercise as well.
bro magic school bus taught me the importance of lactic acid so talk to miss frizzle
 
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Improving lactic acid clearance can be done without worry about fasted exercise as well.
Ok thanks for clearing that up. It seems that keeping an alkaline diet should improve the body's ability to clear lactate from the muscles. But your right it was most likely DOMS and not lactic acid to begin with
 

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bro magic school bus taught me the importance of lactic acid so talk to miss frizzle
I am sure you are joking, but energy metabolism research has moved pretty far from even just 15-20 years ago. The way aerobic, anaerobic, etc. metabolism interact is continually being learned about versus what we used to know.

Ok thanks for clearing that up. It seems that keeping an alkaline diet should improve the body's ability to clear lactate from the muscles. But your right it was most likely DOMS and not lactic acid to begin with
Alkaline diet is going to have nearly nothing to do with that.
 
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ya idk I think HICA probably reduces DOMS the most for me, but it really just made it hard to tell if I should rest or not
 
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Alkaline diet is going to have nearly nothing to do with that.
Idk man. Lactic acid is converted into lactate and hydrogen ions which create an acidic PH and could be responsible for the soreness I experienced. It would seem the less acidic the PH is during aerobic exercise or just in general the better. The research around this is still being studied and not yet completely understood
 
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Idk man. Lactic acid is converted into lactate and hydrogen ions which create an acidic PH and could be responsible for the soreness I experienced. It would seem the less acidic the PH is during aerobic exercise or just in general the better. The research around this is still being studied and not yet completely understood
but if that's true then apple cider vinegar would make lactic acid worse?
 

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Idk man. Lactic acid is converted into lactate and hydrogen ions which create an acidic PH and could be responsible for the soreness I experienced. It would seem the less acidic the PH is during aerobic exercise or just in general the better. The research around this is still being studied and not yet completely understood
Lactic acid is not causing your DOMS.

You aren't going to drastically alter blood PH via an "alkaline" diet.

Edit: I kind of get what you are trying to say though. I think maybe we need to take a step back though it seems like we are singling out things that aren't worth worrying about based on what you are trying to improve.
 
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but if that's true then apple cider vinegar would make lactic acid worse?
I think blood PH takes time to adjust to a diet. Just drinking apple cider won't all of sudden change your PH in serum
 
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I think blood PH takes time to adjust to a diet. Just drinking apple cider won't all of sudden change your PH in serum
ya I tried to find studies. I found one that said blood ph doesn't change much but pee changed a bunch
 
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I think blood PH takes time to adjust to a diet. Just drinking apple cider won't all of sudden change your PH in serum
Blood pH does not appreciably change in response to diet. The human body is very good at buffering. If it weren't, you'd denature proteins in your body simply by eating a couple pickles.

And lactic acid doesn't cause muscle soreness as has been mentioned. The 'acid' is buffered and 'processed' into lactate within seconds of production. The soreness you feel is mostly caused by muscle micro trauma and, to a lesser extent, the acidic environment post exercise.
 
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Blood pH does not appreciably change in response to diet. The human body is very good at buffering. If it weren't, you'd denature proteins in your body simply by eating a couple pickles.

And lactic acid doesn't cause muscle soreness as has been mentioned. The 'acid' is buffered and 'processed' into lactate within seconds of production. The soreness you feel is mostly caused by muscle micro trauma and, to a lesser extent, the acidic environment post exercise.
The body keeps blood PH between 7.35 and 7.45 but this is for someone with healthy biomarkers and a good respiratory system.

But your correct blood PH shouldn't change much, if not by .10 on the PH scale. Although for someone with impaired kidney or respiratory function the body is not able to buffer acidic foods as well and an alkaline diet would still be beneficial
 
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The body keeps blood PH between 7.35 and 7.45 but this is for someone with healthy biomarkers and a good respiratory system.

But your correct blood PH shouldn't change much, if not by .10 on the PH scale. Although for someone with impaired kidney or respiratory function the body is not able to buffer acidic foods as well and an alkaline diet would still be beneficial
A person with a pH imbalance would benefit from hospitalization lol
 
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A person with a pH imbalance would benefit from hospitalization lol
Shut up man. What about people with kidney issues or liver disease? Where is your smart ass comment now? That's some close minded **** 🤷
 

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