Training Log

AnfoAjax said:
Could be possible, yeah. Also the numbers you were hitting, it's kinda impossible not to eventually tear or tweak something. Some people could also be more injury resistant. I don't think I've ever been injured to the point I was taken out for more than a couple weeks. I was always able to work around it and maintain my strength. I've never had an injury that set me back months and I couldn't maintain strength.

There's alot of guys running gear in my gym and they all seem surprised when I tell them my dosages and what I use. Then I hear them running 3-4 different injects and I'm like wtf dude, lol.

I love my test and that's what I'm going to stick with haha. Though this is the first time I'll be cutting while trying to get stronger (it's been 3 years since my last serious cut). I'm noticing I'm dropping it off pretty fast.
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You’re surprised because you have never done those compounds or doses, so you still have this mythical view that they really do more than they do - as if there is a linear response in use. It’s the same expectations lifetime natties have of going on TRT - like 150mg of testosterone is the difference between their 225 benchpress and becoming a human silverback.

A way it was put to me many years ago, that I have heard echoed since and seems to really fit the bill, is every time you double the dose, you get maybe something like 25% more effect. So the difference between 250 and 500 and 1,000 and 2g and 4g and 8g are kind of your tiers of use. But those all still come back to individual response. Some people do incredible things on very little, and others very mediocre things on the kitchen sink. And 1,000mg of 3 compounds can potentially be weaker in strength than 1,000 of 1. Anyone would tell you that a gram of primo is much weaker than a gram of test - it’s just much more tolerable for the results it can yield.

I definitely think, similarly, that propensity for injury is a genetic factor. I get hurt a lot, often when I’m not even taking anything. My wife on the other hand, who is a 5’4” lightweight (140lb) pro strongwoman has wrists that are nearly the same size as me at 5’10”. Her figure 8 straps are only one size up from me, and I’ve made hers work in a pinch.

Honestly when I see the way you program, it blows my mind that you can tolerate the intensity and frequency you do without injury. People really are built differently. And when the Mike T’s of the world lean into that, they can do incredible things!
 
Hyde said:
You’re surprised because you have never done those compounds or doses, so you still have this mythical view that they really do more than they do - as if there is a linear response in use. It’s the same expectations lifetime natties have of going on TRT - like 150mg of testosterone is the difference between their 225 benchpress and becoming a human silverback.

A way it was put to me many years ago, that I have heard echoed since and seems to really fit the bill, is every time you double the dose, you get maybe something like 25% more effect. So the difference between 250 and 500 and 1,000 and 2g and 4g and 8g are kind of your tiers of use. But those all still come back to individual response. Some people do incredible things on very little, and others very mediocre things on the kitchen sink. And 1,000mg of 3 compounds can potentially be weaker in strength than 1,000 of 1. Anyone would tell you that a gram of primo is much weaker than a gram of test - it’s just much more tolerable for the results it can yield.

I definitely think, similarly, that propensity for injury is a genetic factor. I get hurt a lot, often when I’m not even taking anything. My wife on the other hand, who is a 5’4” lightweight (140lb) pro strongwoman has wrists that are nearly the same size as me at 5’10”. Her figure 8 straps are only one size up from me, and I’ve made hers work in a pinch.

Honestly when I see the way you program, it blows my mind that you can tolerate the intensity and frequency you do without injury. People really are built differently. And when the Mike T’s of the world lean into that, they can do incredible things!
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I see. I agree with you on the doses. I do think with today's culture of wanting to be Social Media Famous is fueling a pretty unhealthy era of juiced up lifters. Its sad to see. The guy whose taking it slow may take an extra couple years to reach the guy whose going hard, but I will bet my money that the guy whose jogging will outpace the guy whose sprinting over 5, 8, 10 years.

And I could see bone density/thickness being a factor in injuries (if that's what you were trying to get at?). I can already think of a few examples of elite lifters who had a much thinner structure getting injured much more. In fact, it happens to me too. I have never gotten a major injury in my legs or hips. All of my "big" injuries have been in my upper body. I have pretty narrow shoulders and thin wrists, it's not something you'd want if you had aspirations to be a big bencher, which is exactly what I have unfortunately, lol.

Its strange how that doesn't seem to affect strength though, I can also think of several Powerlifters with thin structures who are tremendously strong.

As for my programming, I wouldn't go that far to call it that 🤣 Training Everyday like this is definently high on my list of dumbest things I've done. I'm not sure why I'm even doing it at this point, but I'm making gains, so I guess I'll run with it. I don't know if I'd call that a genetic thing, but I do know I have a very simple minded "no think, lift plate" mentality when it comes to training. I stopped caring about being optimal and obsessive with recovery & nutrition a long time ago and it's been doing me good, haha.
 
Yesterday

October 30th

Paused Beltless Squat - Highbar
225 x 1
315 x 1
2 x 405 x 1 RIR 5+

Weighted Pullups
BW + 25 x 5
BW + 45 x 5
BW + 85 x 5 RIR 3-4

Beltless Rack Pull - Stiff Bar , Mid Shins
235 x 2
315 x 2
405 x 2
495 x 2
2 x 600 x 2 RIR 0

Kneeling Cable Crunch
2 x 280 x 20 RIR 5+

Today

October 31st

Paused Bench Press - Larsen Spoto
135 x 5
225 x 3
260 x 2
290 x 1
325 x 7 RIR 0

Paused Incline Bench Press - Mid Grip
135 x 5
225 x 3
245 x 3
260 x 3 RIR 5-6

First time I've inclined bench in about 2 years, felt easy, but very awkward. Stopped at 260 just because I was nervous about ripping something up. This'll be my next accessory that will replace my OHP.
 
AnfoAjax said:
I see. I agree with you on the doses. I do think with today's culture of wanting to be Social Media Famous is fueling a pretty unhealthy era of juiced up lifters. Its sad to see. The guy whose taking it slow may take an extra couple years to reach the guy whose going hard, but I will bet my money that the guy whose jogging will outpace the guy whose sprinting over 5, 8, 10 years.

And I could see bone density/thickness being a factor in injuries (if that's what you were trying to get at?). I can already think of a few examples of elite lifters who had a much thinner structure getting injured much more. In fact, it happens to me too. I have never gotten a major injury in my legs or hips. All of my "big" injuries have been in my upper body. I have pretty narrow shoulders and thin wrists, it's not something you'd want if you had aspirations to be a big bencher, which is exactly what I have unfortunately, lol.

Its strange how that doesn't seem to affect strength though, I can also think of several Powerlifters with thin structures who are tremendously strong.

As for my programming, I wouldn't go that far to call it that 🤣 Training Everyday like this is definently high on my list of dumbest things I've done. I'm not sure why I'm even doing it at this point, but I'm making gains, so I guess I'll run with it. I don't know if I'd call that a genetic thing, but I do know I have a very simple minded "no think, lift plate" mentality when it comes to training. I stopped caring about being optimal and locked in with training a long time ago and it's been doing me good, haha.
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When you use PEDs, you can pull strength from a bottle as fast as you can tolerate it. Unfortunately, sustaining and maintaining that is the hard part - the steroids are deleterious to health as doses go up, risk of injury goes way up, and the body breaks down.

Definitely better to be as progressive and steady as you can for the best longterm outcome - it’s more about staying in the game and avoiding big injuries to string together many good years of training as long as possible.

Yeah, genetics for joint & tissue longevity are just as important as those for strength - again, probably more so for people leaning on the bottle.

I am not saying your programming is dumb at all, just that high specificity and frequency and intensity is the trifecta of both stimulus & recovery demands. He who can train the hardest most often will reap the best gains, provided you can recover from that. My recovery curve definitely doesn’t keep up withy desire to lift.
 
AnfoAjax said:
Could be possible, yeah. Also the numbers you were hitting, it's kinda impossible not to eventually tear or tweak something. Some people could also be more injury resistant. I don't think I've ever been injured to the point I was taken out for more than a couple weeks. I was always able to work around it and maintain my strength. I've never had an injury that set me back months and I couldn't maintain strength.

There's alot of guys running gear in my gym and they all seem surprised when I tell them my dosages and what I use. Then I hear them running 3-4 different injects and I'm like wtf dude, lol.

I love my test and that's what I'm going to stick with haha. Though this is the first time I'll be cutting while trying to get stronger (it's been 3 years since my last serious cut). I'm noticing I'm dropping it off pretty fast.
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Far too common now seeing people running grams of gear when they don’t even look like they lift
 
AnfoAjax said:
I see. I agree with you on the doses. I do think with today's culture of wanting to be Social Media Famous is fueling a pretty unhealthy era of juiced up lifters. Its sad to see. The guy whose taking it slow may take an extra couple years to reach the guy whose going hard, but I will bet my money that the guy whose jogging will outpace the guy whose sprinting over 5, 8, 10 years.

And I could see bone density/thickness being a factor in injuries (if that's what you were trying to get at?). I can already think of a few examples of elite lifters who had a much thinner structure getting injured much more. In fact, it happens to me too. I have never gotten a major injury in my legs or hips. All of my "big" injuries have been in my upper body. I have pretty narrow shoulders and thin wrists, it's not something you'd want if you had aspirations to be a big bencher, which is exactly what I have unfortunately, lol.

Its strange how that doesn't seem to affect strength though, I can also think of several Powerlifters with thin structures who are tremendously strong.

As for my programming, I wouldn't go that far to call it that 🤣 Training Everyday like this is definently high on my list of dumbest things I've done. I'm not sure why I'm even doing it at this point, but I'm making gains, so I guess I'll run with it. I don't know if I'd call that a genetic thing, but I do know I have a very simple minded "no think, lift plate" mentality when it comes to training. I stopped caring about being optimal and obsessive with recovery & nutrition a long time ago and it's been doing me good, haha.
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You should check out Cissus for bone mineralization/strengthening. Duffin just posted more material on top of his 15 yr old stuff on the matter. I’ll see if I can post link here
 
November 1st

Paused Beltless Squat - Highbar
135 x 4
225 x 2
315 x 2
405 x 1
480 x 1
545 x 2 RIR 1

Weighted Pullups
BW + 25 x 5
BW + 45 x 5
BW + 85 x 5

One Arm KB Swings into Full KB Swings (One whole superset)
2 x 40 x 15 RIR 5+

Kneeling Cable Crunch
2 x 260 x 23 RIR 5+

This was supposed to be the end of my squat training block. I was not expecting to have a rep left in the tank. All 3 of my spotters told me they thought I was going for a 3rd.

I'll be extending my block by a couple weeks, i'll try to work up to 565x2 or 575x2. I won't try to max out though.

On another note, the cut is going good. I can tell I am dropping the fat quick, I already feel much denser.
 
Be careful with the block extension - when you do that, don’t get too greedy & just listen to your body honestly.
 
Hyde said:
Be careful with the block extension - when you do that, don’t get too greedy & just listen to your body honestly.
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I'm glad you bring that point up because there's a little (but small) voice in my head that's telling me it might be the death of me. There's a little ache that's popped up on my left adductor for about a week now.

I'm a bit hard headed and take some convincing but I also know I need time to process stuff because I'm impulsive. I'll sit on it for sure, much appreciated input.
 
AnfoAjax said:
I'm glad you bring that point up because there's a little (but small) voice in my head that's telling me it might be the death of me. There's a little ache that's popped up on my left adductor for about a week now.

I'm a bit hard headed and take some convincing but I also know I need time to process stuff because I'm impulsive. I'll sit on it for sure, much appreciated input.
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Younger guy on YouTube, Max Shethar, finally just hit the 880lb deadlift he had been training intensely for a good while. He’s a strong gifted dude that really loves & knows training - he is already a 600lb raw bencher.

Anyway, someone asked him if he was going to extend the training block out to try to tease out a 900lb pull: his response was that it basically never goes well for him. For myself, I have torn things multiple times within the 2 weeks after a peak/contest. I was still really strong, but the tissues aren’t fully recovered at a micro level from the really big efforts at that point.

And I have strained an adductor, and I still feel it to this day, tighter than the other. It’s a bad time.
 
I’m not saying you shouldn’t go for it necessarily; I just want to highlight that this isn’t competition so there’s no fixed timeline. So you can always take your deload week and see if it feels 100% after that - if not, you rotate to your new plan & live to keep training things that seem safe to push right now.

But you can’t keep getting stronger if you get hurt, so prioritize the long game.
 
November 2nd

Paused Incline Bench Press - Mid Grip
2 x 135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
245 x 2
265 x 2
280 x 3 RIR 3

Skullcrusher Barbell
95 x 8
2 x 125 x 8 RIR 5+
 
Hyde said:
I’m not saying you shouldn’t go for it necessarily; I just want to highlight that this isn’t competition so there’s no fixed timeline. So you can always take your deload week and see if it feels 100% after that - if not, you rotate to your new plan & live to keep training things that seem safe to push right now.

But you can’t keep getting stronger if you get hurt, so prioritize the long game.
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Yep that's what I think I'll do. Me and my wife are doing another cross country move in a few months, so it'd be a real damn shame to tear something. It's actually for this reason I'll be dropping the Training Everyday thing soon. Makes me paranoid since we've got an opportunity to start new, I don't want to blow it.
 
AnfoAjax said:
Yep that's what I think I'll do. Me and my wife are doing another cross country move in a few months, so it'd be a real damn shame to tear something. It's actually for this reason I'll be dropping the Training Everyday thing soon. Makes me paranoid since we've got an opportunity to start new, I don't want to blow it.
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It’s a delicate balance for sure
 
AnfoAjax said:
Yep that's what I think I'll do. Me and my wife are doing another cross country move in a few months, so it'd be a real damn shame to tear something. It's actually for this reason I'll be dropping the Training Everyday thing soon. Makes me paranoid since we've got an opportunity to start new, I don't want to blow it.
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Man that was fast! Was your time up north supposed to be this short? Or just a new opportunity too good to pass?
 
November 3rd

Conventional Block Pulls - 5" Below Kneecap , Beltless
225 x 1
315 x 1
405 x 1
495 x 1
600 x 2 RIR 5+

Weighted Pullups
BW + 25 x 5
BW + 45 x 5
BW + 90 x 5

Kneeling Cable Crunch
2 x 280 x 25

One Arm KB Swings / KB Swings (Superset)
2 x 55 x 15 RIR 5+

Stepped on the scale and was terrified to see I dropped damn near 10lbs over the last 1.5 weeks.
 
Hyde said:
Man that was fast! Was your time up north supposed to be this short? Or just a new opportunity too good to pass?
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Too good to pass, you'd be stupid not to take it.

It sits right on the start of the Rockies, beautiful property with a private room, private kitchen & bathroom and living room for us. Cheap too.
 
AnfoAjax said:
Too good to pass, you'd be stupid not to take it.

It sits right on the start of the Rockies, beautiful property with a private room, private kitchen & bathroom and living room for us. Cheap too.
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IL government sucks anyway.
 
November 4th

Paused Incline Bench Press - Mid Grip
3 x 135 x 5
185 x 4
225 x 2
250 x 2
280 x 5 RIR 2-3

Seated OHP - Bench Grip
135 x 5
160 x 2
180 x 2
200 x 15 RIR 0

Pete Rubish Barbell Hyperextensions
3 x 135 x 10

Averaging a 1000 Calorie Deficit and 16 Hour Fast. I'm dropping the weight like butter and down 13lbs overall. I've been bulked up for years now and I'm getting tired of it lol. I think my goals for this cut will be to sit comfortably around the 195-200 range.
 
Hyde said:
What’s your current weight?
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Around 210 right now completely depleted, found out my gym scale was inaccurate, lol, making me think I was 10lbs lighter for the last year. I'm going to be going for the full 12 weeks with a possible extension if I'm not happy with it
 
November 5th

Paused Beltless Squat Warmup
3 x 135 x 10

2s Paused Leg Press - Conventional Deadlift Stance
3 x 135 x 4
225 x 4
315 x 4
405 x 4
495 x 4
585 x 4
675 x 4 RIR 4

Weighted Pullups
BW + 25 x 6
BW + 45 x 6
BW + 90 x 6

Pete Rubish Barbell Hyperextension
135 x 5
185 x 5
225 x 6 RIR 5+

Kneeling Cable Crunch (Facing Away)
2 x 220 x 12 (Full Stretch , Slow Tempo)

One Arm KB Swings / KB Swings (Superset)
2 x 65 x 15 RIR 5+

Low Back Extension Machine
2 x 150 x 15

Deload
 
November 6th

Paused Incline Bench - Mid Grip
3 x 135 x 4
185 x 4
225 x 2
250 x 2
270 x 2
290 x 5 RIR 1

2-1 Tempo Paused Larsen Press - Close Grip ( Pointer on Smooth )
135 x 7
2 x 225 x 7 RIR 5+

Lateral Raise Machine
2 x 60 x 30

Bit ambitious with the jump on Incline but hit it. Also a mental note for me: Sandals are not good for gym footwear.
 
It’s basically every session I catch my foot on something in the gym. There’s a reason they make ‘barefoot’ shoes & I use them - you still need something to keep from ripping your toenails off or gashing your feet around all the metal in a garage or gym!
 
Hyde said:
It’s basically every session I catch my foot on something in the gym. There’s a reason they make ‘barefoot’ shoes & I use them - you still need something to keep from ripping your toenails off or gashing your feet around all the metal in a garage or gym!
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My issue was that my sandal strap tore off as I was driving with my legs on the last rep. It slid my right foot forward and I ended up having the worst lockout ever (left arm led by like... 6-7 inches, idk it was a lot). It was terrible 🤣 I'm glad I didn't tear some ****.
 
AnfoAjax said:
My issue was that my sandal strap tore off as I was driving with my legs on the last rep. It slid my right foot forward and I ended up having the worst lockout ever (left arm led by like... 6-7 inches, idk it was a lot). It was terrible 🤣 I'm glad I didn't tear some ****.
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That’s why Matt Wenning uses slides, not sandals, for real
 
AnfoAjax said:
My issue was that my sandal strap tore off as I was driving with my legs on the last rep. It slid my right foot forward and I ended up having the worst lockout ever (left arm led by like... 6-7 inches, idk it was a lot). It was terrible 🤣 I'm glad I didn't tear some ****.
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Oof! That could have been a painful one lol.
 
SkRaw85 said:
Oof! That could have been a painful one lol.
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It actually did give me a little bit of an ache. I hopped on the lateral raises to loosen it up and push some blood in there. My left erector also feels kinda jacked up. Hoping it passes by tomorrow.
 
@Hyde @SkRaw85 question for y'all. Got any recommendations on how to get this Adductor Ache to go away, stretches, bands? It's been with me now for almost 2 weeks. Its not strained and I still have strength in it, it seems to tighten up quite a bit when im squatting deep into the hole. It almost feels more like it's my Vastus Medialis since the tension feels much lower on my inner thigh, it's just a constant ache.

Going to have to do another deload day that's for sure.
 
AnfoAjax said:
@Hyde @SkRaw85 question for y'all. Got any recommendations on how to get this Adductor Ache to go away, stretches, bands? It's been with me now for almost 2 weeks. Its not strained and I still have strength in it, it seems to tighten up quite a bit when im squatting deep into the hole. It almost feels more like it's my Vastus Medialis since the tension feels much lower on my inner thigh, it's just a constant ache.

Going to have to do another deload day that's for sure.
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@Hyde is the Yoda of these issues.
 
SkRaw85 said:
@Hyde has too many of these issues.
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^Fixed 😂

If a muscle is aching & hurting with use in the stretched position, it’s overused at this point - it needs more recovery from the stimulus it’s been getting.

You also want to try to address why it might have gotten like this - is frequency or load exposure the primary culprit, or are there possibly mobility restrictions in other areas causing a disproportionate loading (which could also be related to frequency of training not being met with sufficient mobilization to keep up with that)? The fact that it’s unilateral means that it’s probably more a combination of something being too tight and then too much got asked of this over time.

We don’t need hard answers to those questions: the practical answer is to try to loosen up whatever we can to take a little stress off, and rest it up some - cutting back load/frequency/specific volume while still getting a decent amount of bloodflow to help it recover faster. And when you get back to it, be more vigilant in your prep work to help prevent this issue unique to you for a while.
 
Don’t be afraid to take a day off of compound lifts.

I would advise you stop focusing on “training every day” as a goal, if the actual true priority is to get stronger & more jacked. Training frequency absolutely can be a tremendous driver for those qualities, but first & foremost the methods should always serve the goal (not the other way around). I think you can train every day if you consider things like cardio or minor accessories as training - but that requires more discipline on your part because cycling, grip training, breath work, foot strengthening, tissue release/mobility, bracing drills can be tedious AND they’re not sexy like a loaded barbell. But they do aid the goal of bigger & stronger.
 
Hyde said:
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If a muscle is aching & hurting with use in the stretched position, it’s overused at this point - it needs more recovery from the stimulus it’s been getting.

You also want to try to address why it might have gotten like this - is frequency or load exposure the primary culprit, or are there possibly mobility restrictions in other areas causing a disproportionate loading (which could also be related to frequency of training not being met with sufficient mobilization to keep up with that)? The fact that it’s unilateral means that it’s probably more a combination of something being too tight and then too much got asked of this over time.

We don’t need hard answers to those questions: the practical answer is to try to loosen up whatever we can to take a little stress off, and rest it up some - cutting back load/frequency/specific volume while still getting a decent amount of bloodflow to help it recover faster. And when you get back to it, be more vigilant in your prep work to help prevent this issue unique to you for a while.
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Lmao, same bro
 
Hyde said:
Don’t be afraid to take a day off of compound lifts.

I would advise you stop focusing on “training every day” as a goal, if the actual true priority is to get stronger & more jacked. Training frequency absolutely can be a tremendous driver for those qualities, but first & foremost the methods should always serve the goal (not the other way around). I think you can train every day if you consider things like cardio or minor accessories as training - but that requires more discipline on your part because cycling, grip training, breath work, foot strengthening, tissue release/mobility, bracing drills can be tedious AND they’re not sexy like a loaded barbell. But they do aid the goal of bigger & stronger.
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I see. Its a bit hard with an addictive personality like mine because I genuinely do enjoy training everyday (and want to), it's a bit of an impulsive thing as well.

I guess it's my mindset? I'm trying to find ways to be able to hit it hard(ish) everyday while also doing things that will drive me towards my end goal (getting stronger obviously) AND satisfy that urge to want to train hard, everyday, so everything does have a very specific purpose. Maybe it's just accepting 1) humans can't do that 2) finding happiness in the little things, like you said, the **** that sucks and is tedious.

And I do think a lot of it is training intensity. I think I can handle the frequency, though I think I'm just going way too damn hard way too often (I.E very heavy tonnage). It's definently a mobility thing for sure. Because I feel fine once I'm loose and warmed up (forgot to mention that tidbit). The pain does go away.
 
November 7th

Beltless Conventional Deadlift - 2.25" Deficit
135 x 2
225 x 2
315 x 2
405 x 1
495 x 1
600 x 2

Barbell Row
225 x 6
315 x 6
405 x 7 (Miscounted)

Kneeling Cable Crunch (Facing Away)
70 x 20
2 x 230 x 12 ( Full Stretch , Slow Tempo )

Adductor felt great today, surprisingly. Seems I can still deadlift just fine. 15lb PR.

I did much more warming up though, bands, stretches, massage gun. Helped significantly.
 
AnfoAjax said:
I see. Its a bit hard with an addictive personality like mine because I genuinely do enjoy training everyday (and want to), it's a bit of an impulsive thing as well.

I guess it's my mindset? I'm trying to find ways to be able to hit it hard(ish) everyday while also doing things that will drive me towards my end goal (getting stronger obviously) AND satisfy that urge to want to train hard, everyday, so everything does have a very specific purpose. Maybe it's just accepting 1) humans can't do that 2) finding happiness in the little things, like you said, the **** that sucks and is tedious.

And I do think a lot of it is training intensity. I think I can handle the frequency, though I think I'm just going way too damn hard way too often (I.E very heavy tonnage). It's definently a mobility thing for sure. Because I feel fine once I'm loose and warmed up (forgot to mention that tidbit). The pain does go away.
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I would also rather go to the gym every day. But 3-4 real training days produces the best results for my recoverability, as well as being a better accommodation to my family life (same for my wife). One of us needs to always be with my son, so we have to share the early time before work and minimize night or weekend training for the sake of our family.

If we could train 6-7 days per week and make better results sustainably though, we would find a way to accommodate likely. But that’s not how most people recover & adapt - especially the longer you do this as you age and grow stronger.

It takes discipline for the serious lifter to hold back a little in training, but that is usually the path to better results - delaying gratification, & also doing what you may not want to do.
 
Got some S23 on the way. It is absolutely the strongest SARM I've tried, at 50-60mg the explosive strength it gives is unreal (more than any oral I've taken honestly), aggression is awesome. It's dry. Won't gain more than a couple pounds. I recommend anyone try it, I know SARMs get a bad rep but this stuff is legit.

I've also been thinking of ideas when I start my bulk up in April. Waiting for Black Friday to roll around so I can stock up, I'll be getting a lot. Thinking High Test or Tren/Test. Not sure yet.
 
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Got some S23 on the way. It is absolutely the strongest SARM I've tried, at 50-60mg the explosive strength it gives is unreal (more than any oral I've taken honestly), aggression is awesome. It's dry. Won't gain more than a couple pounds. I recommend anyone try it, I know SARMs get a bad rep but this stuff is legit.

I've also been thinking of ideas when I start my bulk up in April. Waiting for Black Friday to roll around so I can stock up, I'll be getting a lot. Thinking High Test or Tren/Test. Not sure yet.
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Wish I’d known; got a couple packs of S23 I’d have given you that I got for a song. Would be nice to meet up for a lift before you head to the mountains!

That’s my experience as well, dead on. I actually dislike it because of aggression. I’m already an aggressive lifter so I like to compartmentalize that fragment of myself and relegate it to lifting. S23 I always felt so pissy just driving to the gym! I need my patience as a dad ☺️

I’ve never used Winstrol but seems very similar on paper; very hard on lipids and scalp with very dry mass and great strength boost. That dose is where it’s at; 20-30 is underwhelming solo.
 
Hyde said:
Wish I’d known; got a couple packs of S23 I’d have given you that I got for a song. Would be nice to meet up for a lift before you head to the mountains!

That’s my experience as well, dead on. I actually dislike it because of aggression. I’m already an aggressive lifter so I like to compartmentalize that fragment of myself and relegate it to lifting. S23 I always felt so pissy just driving to the gym! I need my patience as a dad ☺️

I’ve never used Winstrol but seems very similar on paper; very hard on lipids and scalp with very dry mass and great strength boost. That dose is where it’s at; 20-30 is underwhelming solo.
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I could make the drive there. We need to go through IL anyways.

Also on the S23 bit, I need the aggression haha. I'm a pretty chill and quiet person, it takes a lot for me to get aggressive. Now that I think about it, I can't remember the last time I've felt genuine aggression in the gym either. I can get amped up with adrenaline fairly easy though.
 
November 9th

Paused Beltless Squat
3 x 135 x 5
225 x 2
315 x 2
2 x 405 x 2

Weighted Pullups
BW + 25 x 5
BW + 45 x 5
BW + 100 x 5

Pete Rubish Hyperextensions
135 x 4
185 x 4
225 x 8

Kneeling Cable Crunch (Facing Away)
140 x 8
2 x 230 x 15

Paused Bench Press
2 x 135 x 12

Conventional Deadlift
2 x 225 x 12
 
AnfoAjax said:
I could make the drive there. We need to go through IL anyways.

Also on the S23 bit, I need the aggression haha. I'm a pretty chill and quiet person, it takes a lot for me to get aggressive. Now that I think about it, I can't remember the last time I've felt genuine aggression in the gym either. I can get amped up with adrenaline fairly easy though.
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Any time you wanna come down, let me know and I’ll shift stuff around to make it work!

Yeah that’s the best way to use PEDS; they should compliment the qualities you already possess. Someone who is a skinny hardgainer is going to benefit from nandrolone way more than someone who gains weight easily but gets kind of sloppy, for example. Try to add what you lack to find a good balance.

SkRaw85 said:
You guys going to the Arnold this year? I’ve never been but pondering…
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Probably; wife has Worlds in 3.5 weeks so hopefully she won’t want to compete again at the Arnold so soon, but even if she doesn’t lift we often go just to watch some lifting. Its only a 6 hour drive.
 
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