MPMD Gorilla Mind stuff is not shabby stuff. I was one of the folks lucky enough to try Derek's product at 2g (ends up being 200mg of true Turk complexed) a day when it came out and me being off of everything for a couple years now and IT MADE A REAL DIFFERENCE. No....it is NOT as strong as steroids or LGD 4033 for example, but it did indeed make a difference. I only used it for 2 months though before I ran out and they have yet to restock the product.I’ve never done a real cycle, tried ostarine over half a decade ago, but I enjoy the knowledge MPMD posts on YouTube and when he posted about Turk I had to drop androgin in the comments.
From my understanding Turk could replace gear that also binds to the estrogin beta receptor and now Androgin can do the same for androgen receptor binding. I still have to try Androgin solo myself, appreciate logs, but I love thinking about combining things even if I haven’t tried them. lol
The prospect of being able to pick natural sources that do the same thing as gear makes the future of muscle building so exciting!
I am thinking the same experiment you are....COMBINING something like Androgin (assuming results will be positive) with Derek's Turk. NO....again, it won't be like steroids. But it will still be better than nothing.